Advice New Rods Advice Needed

[chesilpete]

And you should know mate..

Ian.

At some point all quests should finish and after much chatting some fecking rods should be bought.
Bullshittus maximus ....
So much advice.... not enough action.

 

[Cwab]

At some point all quests should finish and after much chatting some fecking rods should be bought.
Bullshittus maximus ....
So much advice.... not enough action.

Looking forward to hearing what Sirgunner decides on eventually and why.

 

[Grimleyfiendish]

Ah so there is someone on here that has and likes the Blackouts When I had a play with one in the tackle shop I thought it was lovely too

Also got the Comp match GT's, Comp Naga's, Xenon powers (3piece, for the arkward spots for casting)AFAW match pro's, tourney matche's, Sonik gravity X5's, Abu Suverans (both the 4/8 and 4/6oz models) and many more rods that I can't think of at the mo (all pairs) Been down the British rod route many times with Century rods (about 10 different models) and Zipplex (about 6 different models, never been impressed with UK rods, especially Zipplex, although Century were ok but nothing special, reason I don't use british rods now is lack of transparency, all the rods are at least 50% Eastern materials (reelseats, guides etc, but what they don't tell you is the spec of Carbon used and where it comes from (which to me would be a huge selling point) feel that they have something to hide. The other side is the foreign companies are more than happy to tell you what grade of materials used and where there sourced (Tronix - Mitsubushi, very reputable company) and given the state of British Manufacturing ( ie armed forces stuff, rail network etc ) it just don't work, think we need to accept the UK is a third world nation !

 

[chesilpete]

Also got the Comp match GT's, Comp Naga's, Xenon powers (3piece, for the arkward spots for casting)AFAW match pro's, tourney matche's, Sonik gravity X5's, Abu Suverans (both the 4/8 and 4/6oz models) and many more rods that I can't think of at the mo (all pairs) Been down the British rod route many times with Century rods (about 10 different models) and Zipplex (about 6 different models, never been impressed with UK rods, especially Zipplex, although Century were ok but nothing special, reason I don't use british rods now is lack of transparency, all the rods are at least 50% Eastern materials (reelseats, guides etc, but what they don't tell you is the spec of Carbon used and where it comes from (which to me would be a huge selling point) feel that they have something to hide. The other side is the foreign companies are more than happy to tell you what grade of materials used and where there sourced (Tronix - Mitsubushi, very reputable company) and given the state of British Manufacturing ( ie armed forces stuff, rail network etc ) it just don't work, think we need to accept the UK is a third world nation !

I will never accept that we are a third world nation....
Lack of transparency.... really?
You can see the factory and email century and their autoclave machines and the bonnie lads making the rods.
What's the tronix email address I would love to ask them about which factories the nagas come from and the composition?
Also love to understand the warranty periods???

 

[Topwater]

Also got the Comp match GT's, Comp Naga's, Xenon powers (3piece, for the arkward spots for casting)AFAW match pro's, tourney matche's, Sonik gravity X5's, Abu Suverans (both the 4/8 and 4/6oz models) and many more rods that I can't think of at the mo (all pairs) Been down the British rod route many times with Century rods (about 10 different models) and Zipplex (about 6 different models, never been impressed with UK rods, especially Zipplex, although Century were ok but nothing special, reason I don't use british rods now is lack of transparency, all the rods are at least 50% Eastern materials (reelseats, guides etc, but what they don't tell you is the spec of Carbon used and where it comes from (which to me would be a huge selling point) feel that they have something to hide. The other side is the foreign companies are more than happy to tell you what grade of materials used and where there sourced (Tronix - Mitsubushi, very reputable company) and given the state of British Manufacturing ( ie armed forces stuff, rail network etc ) it just don't work, think we need to accept the UK is a third world nation !

Then we will have to agree to disagree! I could put it a lot stronger than that as frankly I find much of your statement laughable. Add Daiwa and Harrison to the mix and you are a long way off the truth. The fact the world does a vast amount of manufacturing in the East does not mean they are at the spearhead of development, simply that they have the economies of scale and much lower operating costs. I understand the processes and the margins involved as I've been involved in developing freshwater fishing tackle since 1991and have seen the many changes unfold. Saltwater fishing is my 'bus man's holiday' and I can say hand on heart that I have absolutely zero brand affiliation. There are plenty of smoke and mirrors type tactics involved in product placement these days so can you for the sake of clarity state whether or not you are, as has been suggested above, a 'sponsored' angler, 'brand ambassador' or 'influencer' by any chance ?

 

[SirGunner]

The 14ft version is very very good.... powerful and very predictable. I had a go before they went on general sale from CKB on here.
The tip is great in tide run and does not pull the lead out.
Hope you get to try one.
I am not writing off all other brands, I actually fish with Italian rods mainly but I have a lot of Century rods and use them all on occassion.

Thanks @chesilpete that's really useful information, just the kind of thing I'm looking for to help me make an informed decision before I part with my hard(ish) earned cash I wasn't trying to suggest that you are writing off all non UK brands, merely that I'm staying open to all options until I've made a final decision.

 

[chesilpete]

Thanks @chesilpete that's really useful information, just the kind of thing I'm looking for to help me make an informed decision before I part with my hard(ish) earned cash I wasn't trying to suggest that you are writing off all non UK brands, merely that I'm staying open to all options until I've made a final decision.

Honestly, it's such a personal choice.
I have a lot of gear, I also have some odd stuff with no country of origin.
But I know one thing, Century and Zziplex both make rods designed in this country for fishing in this country.
The UK market is so pathetically tiny in this global market that it's hard to even consider why anyone would put time into R&D to develop a product properly.
Unless of course it's their bread and butter.
I think that the fireblade is a great rod for the price, in fact it's the best rod for its price.
@charr has just upgraded maybe his pair of 13s are up for grabs? I doubt it but it's worth an ask??

 

[Shirleycodlin]

Let's keep this on topic.
It's not a thread about British Vs Chinese manufacturers

 

[Topwater]

Let's keep this on topic.
It's not a thread about British Vs Chinese manufacturers

Correct. Hopefully it's about unbiased advice and personal as opposed to vested opinions

 

[Cwab]

And you should know mate..

Ian.

Just to update big beach returned to pal , so necessity been mother of invention decided to create funkenstein for the cliffs and braid using both alvey and fixed spool using my old tip tornado Grand Prix and section of boat rod to include reel seat. Tools Stanley knife, tape measure, bagging tape and electrical , and nail varnish, existing rings initially used
Boat rod section including reel seat wammed upt rear of gp x6” or so where it will remain giving distance of 9” from base butt cap to centre of reel seat and 19” to centre original seat.
Removed guide from butt section and placed on tip section giving 190cm ish from original seat and 230 ish from bottom seat, removed other rings and jiggled now five guides plus tip.
Taped poledark/den rip, casting trigger very kindly donated by Mike hemming ( thanks again Mike) above bottom reel seat for Alvey and franky was born.
Lazy low kind of fishing pendulum with 7 ounce lead and braid no ring/ guide wraps in all combinations but not used in anger yet and distance ok for da cliff, Alvey pain in the butt at times, tee hee

 

[SirGunner]

Just to update big beach returned to pal , so necessity been mother of invention decided to create funkenstein for the cliffs and braid using both alvey and fixed spool using my old tip tornado Grand Prix and section of boat rod to include reel seat. Tools Stanley knife, tape measure, bagging tape and electrical , and nail varnish, existing rings initially used
Boat rod section including reel seat wammed upt rear of gp x6” or so where it will remain giving distance of 9” from base butt cap to centre of reel seat and 19” to centre original seat.
Removed guides from butt section and placed on tip section giving 190cm ish from original seat and 230 ish from bottom seat, removed other rings and jiggled now five guides plus tip.
Taped poledark/den rip, casting trigger very kindly donated by Mike hemming ( thanks again Mike) above bottom reel seat for Alvey and franky was born.
Lazy low kind of fishing pendulum with 7 ounce lead and braid no ring/ guide wraps in all combinations but not used in anger yet and distance ok for da cliff, Alvey pain in the butt at times, tee hee

Nice bit of DIY innovation

 

[SirGunner]

Been having some fun with colour scheme for potential custome build Fireblade GT. Not going to be everyone's cup of tea but I'm really liking this colour combination.

 

[Cwab]

Nice bit of DIY innovation

Thanks, am sure it will do for winching upt cliffs and is expendable at worst

 

[Cwab]

Been having some fun with colour scheme for potential custome build Fireblade GT. Not going to be everyone's cup of tea but I'm really liking this colour combination.

Also later if accessorizing would cut a dash with da rubber bullseye waders and maybe sou wester.

 

[SirGunner]

Also later if accessorising would cut a dash with da rubber bullseye waders and maybe sou wester.

Those rubber waders were rather fetching

 

[Cwab]

Those rubber waders were rather fetching

Yes very much so, and been extra high the chaffing could be exquisite.

 

[Topwater]

Been having some fun with colour scheme for potential custome build Fireblade GT. Not going to be everyone's cup of tea but I'm really liking this colour combination.

That's the beauty of a custom build - apart from improvements to hardware you can get what YOU like. Great rod builders like Rossco, Stan Parkes etc have both a catalogue of previous builds and an eye for what works. The choices are yours to enjoy

 

[Topwater]

Yes very much so, and been extra high the chaffing could be exquisite.

I think/hope that's an entirely different forum you're thinking about....

 

[Cwab]

I think/hope that's an entirely different forum you're thinking about....

Post 150, soo worth it, and would match many rod colour schemes methinks

 

[SirGunner]

Don't do it @Topwater some things you just can't un-see! lol