Fixed spool on a multiplier rod

[chesilpete]

Your definitely confused.... by bottom of spool we mean nearest the bottom of the rod.

 

[Angrybear]

Your definitely confused.... by bottom of spool we mean nearest the bottom of the rod.

Well you might, but I suspect more people would picture Top/bottom as being in relation to how the FS reel hangs from the bottom of the rod, rather than a multiplier which sits on top of the rod, and front/back of spool as being in relation to the way the line leaves the spool, as it sits along the length of the rod.
Certainly shows the need to make crystal clear what you're talking about.

And top back of the spool would be the ideal place for the leader knot.

 

[Busanga]

AD.......Top (Front) / Bottom
AC.......Top (Front) / Top
BD........Bottom (back) / Bottom
BC........Bottom (Back) / Top

Lets all get on same page...Where should knot be ?

 

[chesilpete]

Jeez I am out of this one..... go have a go yourself and if I am right adopt it, if I am wrong don't.
I have been doing it since I used a Mitchell 498 and a Conoflex Blackadder and it was suggested to me in around 1982 when my 42mm butt ring had scores in it from the leader knot. It does not fix it but be sure it reduces it.
@Busanga "B"
I am outa this thread.....

 

[Busanga]

Jeez I am out of this one..... go have a go yourself and if I am right adopt it, if I am wrong don't.
I have been doing it since I used a Mitchell 498 and a Conoflex Blackadder and it was suggested to me in around 1982 when my 42mm butt ring had scores in it from the leader knot. It does not fix it but be sure it reduces it.
@Busanga "B"
I am outa this thread.....

Still not clear Pete.. is it BD or BC in description above.. I know is B.. but where on B.. see the description I wrote below the diagram.. then we are perfectly clear where u mean..

 

[Cwab]

Never found any perceivable difference with braid if using a “shock leader” which I do, 70lb mainline with 90lb rubbing leader and at night when conditions cold and wet position of leader knot not even consideration to me.
Do try and maintain same drop when possible and conditions allow but this usually “near as matters”
When used to fish beach’s with multi and mono along with most other people used to love (on busy nights when conditions allowed) the distinctive twang of shocker knot passing through tip ring of others when casting, real frenzy at times

 

[chesilpete]

Just b the bottom of the spool... anywhere in 360 degrees just bottom of spool b

 

[Busanga]

Just b the bottom of the spool... anywhere in 360 degrees just bottom of spool b

Ah that's where all this confusion has come from.. Angrybear even posted pic of his rod with the line coming off at different sides (C&D) of the circumference.. and is why there was confusion over how this would affect the cast..

As it is now clear is just the Bottom / Back / B of the spool and knot can be any where along circumference.. we are all on same page now

I always put knot at back (for years) to avoid the line coming off pulling over the knot and 'catching' if knot was in front (A) of the spool..

I was thinking you were advocating positioning knot at particular spot on circumference.. hence all the confusion...

We on same page now... TG... I was going crazy.. as I am sure you were .... hahahaha

 

[stan m]

Now you've confused me even more, because Topwater was talking about the front or the back of the spool, not top or bottom


Look at the pictures, it's clear to see that the line coming off the top of the spool has much less angle through the ring,
where as the line from the bottom of the spool is being dragged across the ring at much more angle so a knot from the top will have a much cleaner passage through the ring, compared to one from the bottom, and that's not even a big beach reel but it's the largest FS I have

Sheesh you don`t half complicate things. For TOP also read FRONT. For BOTTOM also read BACK. Why not just set the reel as far down the rod as you can from the butt guide, take it on a field and cast.

 

[philthefish]

This is better than TV

 

[Busanga]

Sheesh you don`t half complicate things. For TOP also read FRONT. For BOTTOM also read BACK. Why not just set the reel as far down the rod as you can from the butt guide, take it on a field and cast.
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Hahaha... beat you to it... got so confused had to post a pic above.. with labels on it myself...

 

[Busanga]

This is better than TV

It's like a Two Ronnie's sketch... tops and bottoms ... or forkandles

 

[chesilpete]

send three and four pence were going to a dance.....

 

[Topwater]

Sheesh you don`t half complicate things. For TOP also read FRONT. For BOTTOM also read BACK. Why not just set the reel as far down the rod as you can from the butt guide, take it on a field and cast.
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Agreed Stan and ChesilPete. Is this forum is becoming home of the armchair angling pedantry association? If so then I ain't joining! Crack on lads and work out what works best for you in your circumstances and with your choice of tackle

 

[chesilpete]

Agreed Stan and ChesilPete. Is this forum is becoming home of the armchair angling pedantry association? If so then I ain't joining! Crack on lads and work out what works best for you in your circumstances and with your choice of tackle

I will out last them and remain sane.

 

[Topwater]

I will out last them and remain sane.

I'm using the dreaded ignore button a lot more these days

 

[Trampster]

Agree Pete.

Just b the bottom of the spool... anywhere in 360 degrees just bottom of spool b

The knot is never going to be at the same point around the spool after casting & reeling in, especially if the position of the spool has changed if the drag has allowed it to rotate. Far too much hassle to rotate the spool every time to ensure the knot is at "BC 0r BD".
B is good enough.

 

[chesilpete]

I'm using the dreaded ignore button a lot more these days

Who said that ;-)

 

[Cwab]

 

[flappy]

Ah that's where all this confusion has come from.. Angrybear even posted pic of his rod with the line coming off at different sides (C&D) of the circumference.. and is why there was confusion over how this would affect the cast..

As it is now clear is just the Bottom / Back / B of the spool and knot can be any where along circumference.. we are all on same page now

I always put knot at back (for years) to avoid the line coming off pulling over the knot and 'catching' if knot was in front (A) of the spool..

I was thinking you were advocating positioning knot at particular spot on circumference.. hence all the confusion...

We on same page now... TG... I was going crazy.. as I am sure you were .... hahahaha

You’re on a wind up..