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[Tournamag]

Welcome to the forum!

The top eye on the Conti rod I normally use is too small to pass anything strong through it, so I tie a figure of 8 loop in the leader, thread the line through the rod eyes, and use an American snap swivel:
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Pass the loop through the eye of the swivel, pass the 'snap' through the loop, and pull tight.

For the bottom of the rig, I usually use a clip down link:
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Which makes it easy to attach the lead, and clip the bottom hook down if the rig design permits.

You need to ensure that any components you are using are rated the same or greater strength than the shock leader, to ensure the weight doesn't crack off & go flying over the horizon!
And if you haven't heard of this 'rule of thumb' before, your shock leader needs to be 10x in Lbs of the largest weight in Oz you intend to use. So if casting with a 6oz weight, you need a minimum of a 60Lb shock leader, maybe a little more to allow for bait.

Well if your doing figure of 8 loop on end that's weaker along with snap swivels unless game rated types! =Snap snap snap leads flying anywhere/Everywhere you Beach Menace you!

 

[Tournamag]

Hi guys I’m after a bit of advice, will be looking to have my first see fishing outing in the next few weeks, somewhere around the Bristol Channel,

my question is a simple one to a seasoned fisherman but I’m slightly confused.

what do you guys use/keep on the end of your shock leader. A swivel or a link clip? To attatch your rig

I was planning on using a Gemini 100lb swivel (as I thought this may fit through the eyes better and I could just leave it attached)

Been looking at pre made rigs, (easier for now) most come with a swivel at the top, so I’m wondering if I’m thinking about things the wrong way round? As obviously swivel to swivel won’t work.

Sorry for the real basic question cheers for any help.

You will be alright as were going to assign @Trampster as your Beach guardian/Gillie so he will Carry your kit and tie/check terminal tackle and bait up for you.

 

[tdxs133pm]

Tend to agree with Gary,using a Snap Swivel is an accident waiting to happen no matter how careful you are with your casting.On a boat fine but not on the beach, too risky.

 

[Tournamag]

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Tend to agree with Gary,using a Snap Swivel is an accident waiting to happen no matter how careful you are with your casting.On a boat fine but not on the beach, too risky.

Using loops rather than a knot allows the line to bite into/crimp other part so weakens it.

 

[geejayy]

Veals do those Seadra swivels that are small swivels like have for snoods yet are well over 100lb rated so go through rod eyes easily.

Still have a load of those Dexter QR swivels if others need? there good but liking the Termi links so just using one thing now.

not sure why you would want the swivels to go through the rod eyes?

 

[jackjock]

195 lb power Swivel

 

[Tournamag]

not sure why you would want the swivels to go through the rod eyes?

Stays on end of leaders so first point of call to attach rig to

 

[Mr Fish]

Stays on end of leaders so first point of call to attach rig to

Lazy fishing ??‍

 

[ouchthathurt]

I tie the Gemini link to the leader after threading the lines through the rod rings, then cut it off before reeling the lines back through the eyes. I don’t like having the links attached while reeled on the multipliers (Diawa 7ht) as they get jammed between the spool and the cage. I don’t want the clips rattling through the rings lest they get jammed while reeling in and pop out an eye inner, or damage the eye in some way. It’s easier to unclip the old rig and swap it with a pre-baited rig and recast quickly, (double patting) I usually have to replace at least one trace per session due to damage to the hook snoods by spider crabs, or I’ve caught an eel, (I’ve had at least one eel a session the last few months on my local mark) or the hook point is damaged or turned over.

 

[Tournamag]

Lazy fishing ??‍

How do you make out Lazy? Have to thread line through eyes but is far easier with something on end of line rather than faffing around with line off down beach in wind then drop rod smashing eyes so then have to walk back home!

 

[Mr Fish]

How do you make out Lazy? Have to thread line through eyes but is far easier with something on end of line rather than faffing around with line off down beach in wind then drop rod smashing eyes so then have to walk back home!

Never had a problem. Usually put the rod butt in the bottom stand cup, walk through to the end threading the line, pull line down the rod length, then put rod in stand and tie on swivel/rig/clip.

Fresh knot, no potential abrasion on it. Cut off at end of session along with any abraded leader, no clip to bounce through rod rings.

It must take all of 30 seconds longer than leaving the clip on there.
I just don’t see the point of doing that ??‍

 

[geejayy]

Stays on end of leaders so first point of call to attach rig to

ah, reading above posts i see the plan, couldn't see the point of having a swivel that runs through the eyes potentially smashing the inserts with an over enthusiastic retrieve

 

[Tournamag]

ah, reading above posts i see the plan, couldn't see the point of having a swivel that runs through the eyes potentially smashing the inserts with an over enthusiastic retrieve

Small swivel or Termi link isn't going to break liners or if did it's a rod with pretty shite eyes!

 

[flappy]

I just use what ever clip or swivels the pretied rigs have got on them.

 

[Wolf]

Hi guys I’m after a bit of advice, will be looking to have my first see fishing outing in the next few weeks, somewhere around the Bristol Channel,

my question is a simple one to a seasoned fisherman but I’m slightly confused.

what do you guys use/keep on the end of your shock leader. A swivel or a link clip? To attatch your rig

I was planning on using a Gemini 100lb swivel (as I thought this may fit through the eyes better and I could just leave it attached)

Been looking at pre made rigs, (easier for now) most come with a swivel at the top, so I’m wondering if I’m thinking about things the wrong way round? As obviously swivel to swivel won’t work.

Sorry for the real basic question cheers for any help.

I use a Gemini link all the time,easy to change rigs then m8.tight lines

 

[Minstrelblue]

Just keep it simple..no Christmas tree rigs. Good quality hooks and swivels a must.

 

[Valleyboy]

Breakaway links normally tied to the leader, swi\/els to the top of the rig. Dependant on rod and reel I either ha\/e a clip already tied on or I don't, but I usually cut the clip off at the end of a session whate\/er I am using