Problems with my butt

[Mr Fish]

So… £12 for coasters in the shop!

Once the paramedics had revived me, I thanked him quickly, paid and left before I bought anything else!

Feeling a bit stung but at least I took the rod in, got to try a couple of pairs on it first and also borrow a multi to ensure they would grip the reel seat okay.
Which was useful as the first (breakaway coasters not the disposable ones) pair I tried appeared to be the correct fit until it transpired they didn’t tighten up enough to hold a reel.

Went fishing last night (really nothing to report but might put something up later) so not going tonight but may look at tomorrow night possibly and try the rod out.

 

[Mr Fish]

Well, profitable end of the afternoon, new tip tape on the rod, coasters on and ready for fishing later.

Also replaced the leg lock kit on my tripod and took off the extending legs, as I never used them anyway.

The ‘new’ rod with reducer where it is looks about the same length as my big Abu so hopefully they’ll be a better pair.

I shall report back on how the rod performed later!

 

[Mr Fish]

My butt is out in the red light district…

 

[Angrybear]

Steel once manufactured is inert but we know heat and cold can affect it, same for many plastics.

You obviously have a different definition of "inert" to me anything that expands/contracts with temp is NOT inert.

Nice pic Mr Fish

 

[Valleyboy]

Agree. Works great on a stub manifold - probably not so well on carbon-fibre, although heat would soften the resin and allow things to move around a bit...

Surely softening the resin would increase friction and grip making it less likely to "crack" off

 

[stan m]

You obviously have a different definition of "inert" to me anything that expands/contracts with temp is NOT inert.

Nice pic Mr Fish

Inert "an inability to move without an external force or chemical addition"

 

[Mr Fish]

Inert "an inability to move without an external force or chemical addition"

I have that problem, yes

 

[AlanT]

I think you will find that carbon fibre contracts when heated. Add the right type of resin and you should end up with a material that neither contracts nor expands with temperature change. The F1 boys know this and design accordingly.
Not about to give a Zippy a squirt with a blowlamp to find out though.

 

[DaveH]

Surely softening the resin would increase friction and grip making it less likely to "crack" off

My understanding is that softening resin on a microscopic level would move any "high spots" when torque was applied. Not my field though so I can't say for certain. I do have a trout rod which had sticky ferrules, and I used a bit if wet and dry on the male ferule. Worked a treat, but now needs a shim (a single blade of grass works) to tighten the joint before fishing. Would that work with a much beefier rod? - perhaps, with a thicker shim.

 

[Valleyboy]

My understanding is that softening resin on a microscopic level would move any "high spots" when torque was applied. Not my field though so I can't say for certain. I do have a trout rod which had sticky ferrules, and I used a bit if wet and dry on the male ferule. Worked a treat, but now needs a shim (a single blade of grass works) to tighten the joint before fishing. Would that work with a much beefier rod? - perhaps, with a thicker shim.

I wouldn't do that with a beachcaster. I'm thinking the "resin" would react the same as any other polymer and soften and thus grip more/increase friction. Think car tyres or shoe soles

 

[LeighamFox]

Am it the only one that had to think very hard about looking in here after reading the title.

 

[Mr Fish]

Am it the only one that had to think very hard about looking in here after reading the title.

Oh, I imagine some of them couldn’t wait!

 

[Kine262]

Oh, I imagine some of them couldn’t wait!

I put it on my favourite's list!

 

[nearly70ty]

Never tried this but fi you take the but cap off the reducer drill a hole through the reducer about 20 mm from the bottom. then put in the hole a bolt or dowel the same size. Put a rod or what ever fits through the rod and tap against the Bolt/dowel. Pop the but cap back on when it seperates and nobodies none the wiser a bout the hole.
Ps If you have sombody pulling and twisting at the same time you'll reduce the amout of force you'll need to tap the dowel/bolt.

 

[flappy]

Never tried this but fi you take the but cap off the reducer drill a hole through the reducer about 20 mm from the bottom. then put in the hole a bolt or dowel the same size. Put a rod or what ever fits through the rod and tap against the Bolt/dowel. Pop the but cap back on when it seperates and nobodies none the wiser a bout the hole.
Ps If you have sombody pulling and twisting at the same time you'll reduce the amout of force you'll need to tap the dowel/bolt.

What for..?

 

[nearly70ty]

To seperate the reducer from the rod, that's what this thread is all about.

 

[Mr Fish]

Never tried this but fi you take the but cap off the reducer drill a hole through the reducer about 20 mm from the bottom. then put in the hole a bolt or dowel the same size. Put a rod or what ever fits through the rod and tap against the Bolt/dowel. Pop the but cap back on when it seperates and nobodies none the wiser a bout the hole.
Ps If you have sombody pulling and twisting at the same time you'll reduce the amout of force you'll need to tap the dowel/bolt.

I did consider that, thanks, but apparently the reducer is attached to the rod, or so my mate the previous owner said - he said it never came right out.

In the end although I would have preferred the reducer in, it doesn’t make the rod TOO long so I’ve just gone with that as the new norm length and put shrink tube and coasters where I want the reel.

It does look slightly odd but I don’t really care about that and at least now I can use it.

 

[Cwab]

Have an old century raptor which a lad rebuilt for himself, and one of those rods no one will ever part with but eventually does as most do. Anyhows we did a swop for stuff, and he was telling me he had made a short reducer for it, not the best but was welcome if I wanted but did not really listen, as was prizing rod from his hands and going with da flow.
All this around 2005 and said “reducer” for want of better word, was around a dilometer long though if pattted with force with palm of hand, would go right up there bar half a inch or so.
Planned to tape to it but never did, and it’s job was to help keep reel out of the crap and nothing else, was sat playing with rod and reducer at home one eve, gave it a slap and to the hilt it went.
Have tried everything suggested here including sticking in freezer at jaunty angle but remained like Excalibur for well over a decade till recent events which may or may not have bearing
Last session when everything freezing returned and is my want normally putting hose pipe on rod/rods but could not as frozen so into house and placed next to c/h boiler were rods live in winter that are been used as normal
Normally kit gets cleaned as first job (rinse reel etc) but shattered but next day filled bowl with few inches of water and washing up liquid and set forth to remove the shite from bottom foot of butt and associated crap from hands from rest of rod and replaced after fitting new disposable tip light with butchers tape. Only odd thing and a first, been a small pool of water around butt cap
Feeling inspired after reading this thread, and with reel fitted to rod instructed son who is a bit of an animal to grip rod, and I put vice like grip on the butt cap and half inch of reducer and we both twisted but rock solid as usual, then just came out
Only observation was entire length of insert/ reducer was wet, a miracle! Tape has now been applied edit, miracle did not take place for a a day or three after cleaning and had just rested in normal place.

 

[Topwater]

Just an excuse to show us your wooden phallus and coco de mer really wasn't it Cwaby?

 

[Cwab]

Just an excuse to show us your wooden phallus and coco de mer really wasn't it Cwaby?

Only if you want it to be, and in truth it belongs to the wife along with the coco de mer though the perch and dog carving mine.
The wooden phallus though when commissioned I like to think was inspired by my weaner.