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lot of people have trouble with multis first few times or even after getting used to it and then the reels change slightly with lots of use and rod/weight/bait/wind on the day ....
which is a pain in the arse at times so all in all although I use mainly multis I'm starting to think fixed spools have the benefit for all round ease of use ...
lost a few big fish mainly hounds fast runs by not being able to precisely use drag easily on the multis ..
thinking about it apart from perfectly timed casts going further than fixed spool for me personally I dunno why I use them haha
 
lot of people have trouble with multis first few times or even after getting used to it and then the reels change slightly with lots of use and rod/weight/bait/wind on the day ....
which is a pain in the arse at times so all in all although I use mainly multis I'm starting to think fixed spools have the benefit for all round ease of use ...
lost a few big fish mainly hounds fast runs by not being able to precisely use drag easily on the multis ..
thinking about it apart from perfectly timed casts going further than fixed spool for me personally I dunno why I use them haha
Drag on a multiplier is so much smoother than FS due to way Clutch works on FS they snatch unless a higher quality reel.
Multi is right there by handle and should be using it set right not done up tight! unless like loosing your kit if a big fish hits it like hounds?
 
I find I suffer bait splatter when using a mangle.
Maybe that would change if I used softer tipped rods, but then I find they bounce too much in the wind.
 
Drag on a multiplier is so much smoother than FS due to way Clutch works on FS they snatch unless a higher quality reel.
Multi is right there by handle and should be using it set right not done up tight! unless like loosing your kit if a big fish hits it like hounds?
Get some decent drag washers Tourny, even you can afford them;)
 
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20+ years ago you got laughed at for using a fixed spool how times have changed
That was one reason why I bought a couple of multipliers back around then, but they had level wind, and what I didn't know (and the tackle shop didn't tell me) was they are not really suitable for shore work.

Quick mental count up, I think I've got around a dozen reels at present (plus a few 'reel' antiques up in the loft!) - 3 Multis (2 level wind & a big old boat winch I inherited from father) and 8 F/S reels + 1 baitcaster. F/S reels are Penn Surfblaster, Mitchell RZ9000, a couple of Okuma spinning reels and a few other 'reel' cheapies!
 
Almost certainly. (y) ?
I must admit I do like the engineering of a multi, most everything about them, just can't get on with the buggers to fish with.
I had an Akios Shuttle LH...it was a beautiful bit of kit...the engineering was superb..solid aluminium and just nice to look at...I could have put it on the mantlepiece and used it as an ornament!? It never got wet and I ended up selling it. I'm sure in the right hands it would be fantastic reel to use.IMG_20201107_181138.jpg
 
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I had an Akios Shuttle LH...it was a beautiful bit of kit...the engineering was superb..solid aluminium and just nice to look at...I could have put it on the mantlepiece and used it as an ornament!? It never got wet and I ended up selling it. I'm sure in the right hands it would be fantastic reel to use.
I know how it is.

Mind you I don't feel any less a fisher because I don't use a multiplier and try to pendulum cast baits to the horizon.
 
I prefer multis in the rough as I find it easier to bully in a fish with them, but I see what you’re saying.

That said, with the modern stuff and maybe (shudder!) braid I might do more FS work.

But, BIG but, 95% of my beachcasters and reels are multi and I’d prefer to keep improving the casting side with those rather than buy even more new gear that I don’t need lol.
I agree, and most Continental rods are rung for F/S, so IF I did want to have another try at mastering a multiplier, I'd have to think about buying more rods!
 
With a FS i have the handle on the left and the rod held in the right hand.
Me too! Have always done it that way, and I am Left-handed for most things!
 
Drag on a multiplier is so much smoother than FS due to way Clutch works on FS they snatch unless a higher quality reel.
Multi is right there by handle and should be using it set right not done up tight! unless like loosing your kit if a big fish hits it like hounds?

yeah I do have it set to give line ready for hound bites but what i mean is the fiddling mid fight i find awkward compared to the clutch on top of a fixed spool ...not enough of a problem to make me worry bout it though only a couple times I remember faffing with the clutch and fish taken me into rocks but that's just user error lol
 
yeah I do have it set to give line ready for hound bites but what i mean is the fiddling mid fight i find awkward compared to the clutch on top of a fixed spool ...not enough of a problem to make me worry bout it though only a couple times I remember faffing with the clutch and fish taken me into rocks but that's just user error lol
I find multis quite easy to adjust mid fight? I understand a lot of modern FS are quicker and easier to adjust now than the constant screwing needed before, but I’ve never used one of those reels so don’t know what they’re like.

In theory of course we shouldn’t be fiddling mid fight but it happens if we’ve forgotten to set the drag correctly or simply over/underestimated what was needed. Or a fish simply takes us by surprise with more power than expected.

Tbh my goal with most standard beach/rock fishing is just to get the damn thing in as quick as possible, as of course allowing a fish to run when snags are around probably won’t end well for either of you.
Long sweeping runs up and down the beach might be alright on lighter gear when there’s no snags about, but tbh unless they’re really ornery, most fish just get bullied in by me, although obviously will give line if I have to.
Usually I tend to let the rod absorb the lunges without actually giving any line, if possible.

Not sure if that’s right, just what I’ve always done!
Obviously really good fish will need to be given line but for eg an 8lb smoothie, it’ll just get bullied to shore and then released.
 
I'm with Mr Fish, my shore marks sound similar that most require the fish to be bullied in to avoid them snagging up in rocks/reef. I don't believe I've ever truly played a fish on my big shore fishing gear. All been dragged in.

Fishing with light tackle is a different story though.

@Mr Fish , modern FS drags are nice and fast now, my Ci4 ultegras are less than a turn from off (baitrunner style resistance) to fully locked up. Spinfisher is slower than this though, Carbtonex drag washer upgrades are available for many reels, so if it bothered me I'm sure it could be upgraded, but tbh if I am fishing with the Spinfisher, its snaggy enough that I'll be using one rod, where I am unlikely to back off the drag much if at all.

It's a personal opinion at the end of the day which you prefer, they are different and will have fans on both sides. I can see the benefits to each as I use both, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a favourite!
 
I'm with Mr Fish, my shore marks sound similar that most require the fish to be bullied in to avoid them snagging up in rocks/reef. I don't believe I've ever truly played a fish on my big shore fishing gear. All been dragged in.

Fishing with light tackle is a different story though.

@Mr Fish , modern FS drags are nice and fast now, my Ci4 ultegras are less than a turn from off (baitrunner style resistance) to fully locked up. Spinfisher is slower than this though, Carbtonex drag washer upgrades are available for many reels, so if it bothered me I'm sure it could be upgraded, but tbh if I am fishing with the Spinfisher, its snaggy enough that I'll be using one rod, where I am unlikely to back off the drag much if at all.

It's a personal opinion at the end of the day which you prefer, they are different and will have fans on both sides. I can see the benefits to each as I use both, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a favourite!
Yes fair one, I was vaguely aware the modern reel drags were far better than the older ones that needed 30 seconds of screwing time, lol.

I haven’t bought a new one in a long time! About 80-90% of what I do is multiplier work still.

I definitely prefer using a multi (the drag is only part of it) but I’m not totally against FS either.

The main issue as previously said is it would be quite an investment to swap over and not something I could justify right now.
Maybe at some point I’ll dip my toe in the FS waters properly!
 
One Big Difference between a Multiplier and a Mangle/Coffee Grinder/ @jackjock Torture Device!
Is that Mangles Hide/Mask/Allow poor casting styles where as with a Multiplier a Cack Handed Cast Jackjock style will result in you going home with a nice big Mono wig to wear! as NO where to Hide! What you put in you get out.

One of the Reasons it's great to even have one to use just for casting even so keep casting true! and greater distance with less Bait destroyed
 
One Big Difference between a Multiplier and a Mangle/Coffee Grinder/ @jackjock Torture Device!
Is that Mangles Hide/Mask/Allow poor casting styles where as with a Multiplier a Cack Handed Cast Jackjock style will result in you going home with a nice big Mono wig to wear! as NO where to Hide! What you put in you get out.

One of the Reasons it's great to even have one to use just for casting even so keep casting true! and greater distance with less Bait destroyed
Which is why my multiplier casting career stopped once I managed to hardly ever get a birdsnest. was happy with that! Lol
 
One Big Difference between a Multiplier and a Mangle/Coffee Grinder/ @jackjock Torture Device!
Is that Mangles Hide/Mask/Allow poor casting styles where as with a Multiplier a Cack Handed Cast Jackjock style will result in you going home with a nice big Mono wig to wear! as NO where to Hide! What you put in you get out.

One of the Reasons it's great to even have one to use just for casting even so keep casting true! and greater distance with less Bait destroyed
why put yourself through the pain, fishing is supposed to be fun?
 
One Big Difference between a Multiplier and a Mangle/Coffee Grinder/ @jackjock Torture Device!
Is that Mangles Hide/Mask/Allow poor casting styles where as with a Multiplier a Cack Handed Cast Jackjock style will result in you going home with a nice big Mono wig to wear! as NO where to Hide! What you put in you get out.

One of the Reasons it's great to even have one to use just for casting even so keep casting true! and greater distance with less Bait destroyed
Load of cobblers as usual.:eek::devilish:
 
I have fished fresh water since I was 5-6 years old so was brought up using fixed spool reels, so when I decided to try sea fishing I naturally bought fixed spools to use.
I saw a mate and his dad fishing not long after I started as a fishing and they let me have a try with a multi, didn't like it or dislike it and they, along with a few others convinced me I'd get better distance with a multi and that they were far superior to a fixed spool, so I went and bought and akios 656 CTM. Was a good reel, I really enjoyed casting with it and never really had any problems using it. The only things I didn't like was the time it took to reel in and it just felt abit strange holding the rod and reeling compared to a fixed spool. I percivered for a year with that and a tronix multi (what a load of crap that was) but ended up going back to my trusty fixed spools again as I just found them nicer to use and I could spend less time reeling in.
Both multis were then used for abit of boat fishing til the reel foot literally fell off the tronix, honestly think that was the worst reel I've ever owned! And I sold the akios to a mate who now uses it for most of his boat fishing.
I've since bought a lhw multi for drifting but again it feels so awkward that I've given that away and gone back to my fixed spools.
I admire those that love their multis and wish I had the same passion as I really appreciate the engineering in them and did enjoy casting with them, I just can't see how they benefit me over a fixed spool so I think I'm going to be sticking to fixed spools from now on.
 

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