Surface lure for bass

[Mr Fish]

Use a nice fresh peeler crab

 

[Kine262]

Fascinating! So much knowledge and experience out there, knowing how a fish behaves helps a lot.

It reminds me of a spot my dad and I would fish with 2 hook flappers. We were interested in getting seabream but we'd also get wrasse. One time the sea was so calm...decided to spearfish while my dad fished. Got to see the fish, how they behaved and where they were. Turns out wrasse were nearly always at the bottom, while seabream were 1-2m from the surface. We switched to using floats and it was seabream all day long

P.S. this may be common knowledge BUT we didn't know

I think it can vary from day to day, tide to tide on feeding depth and bait. I would say the key to catching is if you’re not getting bites, try something different. It doesn’t always work but often will.

 

[crablante]

...the key to catching is if you’re not getting bites, try something different...

...and/or patience

 

[Mr Fish]

I think it can vary from day to day, tide to tide on feeding depth and bait. I would say the key to catching is if you’re not getting bites, try something different. It doesn’t always work but often will.

I know I joke about bait over lures but lures are very effective if people know their stuff.
I’d imagine also quite a bit is when and where as you say, rather than any one lure being the killer article

 

[Kine262]

I know I joke about bait over lures but lures are very effective if people know their stuff.
I’d imagine also quite a bit is when and where as you say, rather than any one lure being the killer article

I’d always choose bait over lure, as I think it gives a much greater range of fish to target, as well as a chance of bigger fish, but I still get great satisfaction from every lure caught fish.

 

[Mr Fish]

I’d always choose bait over lure, as I think it gives a much greater range of fish to target, as well as a chance of bigger fish, but I still get great satisfaction from every lure caught fish.

Yes, I get that although I just can’t get past bait because if I’ve put my bait where I know bass are - and catch - that’s satisfying enough.

But that’s just me. And personally I just hate spinning if I can avoid it.

But not criticising lure fishing, it can work very well, it’s just not for me.

Do they make a surface peeler?

 

[Dutchman]

Yes, I get that although I just can’t get past bait because if I’ve put my bait where I know bass are - and catch - that’s satisfying enough.

But that’s just me. And personally I just hate spinning if I can avoid it.

But not criticising lure fishing, it can work very well, it’s just not for me.

Do they make a surface peeler?

I am 100% different than you.

I like to lure fish/spin/feathers love to keep moving.

But i can and do bait fish

And i don't think they do a surface peeler.

 

[Mr Fish]

I am 100% different than you.

I like to lure fish/spin/feathers love to keep moving.

But i can and do bait fish

And i don't think they do a surface peeler.

Nah it just bores me. If I don’t get a take in 10 minutes I’ve had enough

 

[Dutchman]

Nah it just bores me. If I don’t get a take in 10 minutes I’ve had enough

Yes completely opposite as i say, if bait fishing and i see nothing after 15mins i am wondering all sorts, do i reel in to see, has anything took bait, or is there nothing here!

 

[Mr Fish]

Yes completely opposite as i say, if bait fishing and i see nothing after 15mins i am wondering all sorts, do i reel in to see, has anything took bait, or is there nothing here!

Yep it’s just me lol

 

[Mr Fish]

Should be changing bait every 15-20 minutes or so anyway

 

[flappy]

Should be changing bait every 15-20 minutes or so anyway

I can’t be bothered with that.. I am supposed to be relaxing.. not fucking around checking bait and recasting..

 

[crablante]

...if bait fishing and i see nothing after 15mins i am wondering all sorts, do i reel in to see, has anything took bait, or is there nothing here!

HAHAHA patience!

Should be changing bait every 15-20 minutes or so anyway

Not necessarily, it depends on the situation and bait used, for example - went fishing last week for bass using frozen squid. There was nothing around to nibble away the bait so would re-bait every 30-40mins, and that landed a 48cm, a 62cm, and right at the end a tiny 20cm (despite using 4/0 circles)

I can’t be bothered with that.. I am supposed to be relaxing.. not fucking around checking bait and recasting..

I totally agree - what ever floats your boat BUT baiting, casting, retrieving on 2 rods every 15mins...I can do it (and have done) but I don't enjoy it

Which makes me thing: will I enjoy lure fishing? All I know is this spot I want to try it's either surface lure OR spearfishing.

 

[Mr Fish]

HAHAHA patience!


Not necessarily, it depends on the situation and bait used, for example - went fishing last week for bass using frozen squid. There was nothing around to nibble away the bait so would re-bait every 30-40mins, and that landed a 48cm, a 62cm, and right at the end a tiny 20cm (despite using 4/0 circles)


I totally agree - what ever floats your boat BUT baiting, casting, retrieving on 2 rods every 15mins...I can do it (and have done) but I don't enjoy it

Which makes me thing: will I enjoy lure fishing? All I know is this spot I want to try it's either surface lure OR spearfishing.

Well yea, 20 is a general rule of thumb for smaller baits but you’re quite right, big squid or fish you can go up to double that.

 

[crablante]

Well yea, 20 is a general rule of thumb for smaller baits but you’re quite right, big squid or fish you can go up to double that.

100% - didn't mean to mansplain you

 

[Mr Fish]

100% - didn't mean to mansplain you

No problemo!

 

[Slendersunfish]

Worth taking a handful of do-live type sticks too

 

[crablante]

Current status - still need to scope out the location so (for now) get one lure that's "reasonably good" to give it a go AND while doing that cast a baited circle on a float.

 

[goose]

If fishing on or just below the surface don't ignore streamer flies using a bombarder float.

 

[crablante]

If fishing on or just below the surface don't ignore streamer flies using a bombarder float.

100% - in fact my uncle used something similar (homemade from billy goat hair) AND ideally he would educate me on it BUT he's a Jehovah's Witness now and all he want's to talk about is the bible