Surface lure for bass

[Trampster]

What do you mean by deeper? Either way yes, a pair of trebles seems a tad extreme, and they might be a pain to unhook(?)

A Patchinko or Panic Prey is a buoyant lure that will float or remain on the surface, so not much chance of snagging on weed or rocks.

By deeper, I meant if using a metal or hard plastic lure that is not buoyant and sinks, like a SG Seeker, so may get snagged up.

 

[Topwater]

ALL of predilures stuff is sourced off Ali

 

[AlanT]

Most if not all of Predilures stock comes from AliExpress. Both the original Patch and the copies need better hooks and sealing to stop water ingress.

 

[Kevin3110]

I cannot argue that the Patchinkos are no good as I’ve seen loads of pics like your Kevin……it’s just I cannot catch on the damn thing! Could well be I’m just not using it right……I have tried.
It seems that I have much more confidence in a flat faced popper that makes a splash when I twitch the lure.
When summer comes around again I will have yet another go with the Patch’ as I really do want it to work having spent all that money.

When are you using them mate? Night/Day and what type of sea conditions?

 

[Goatfish]

When are you using them mate? Night/Day and what type of sea conditions?

Daytime estuary Kevin. Either tide coming in right to left or the opposite…..

 

[crablante]

What I would say…..again it’s my preference….after starting lure fishing several years ago with lures adorned with treble hooks I found I wasn’t enjoying things because of the damage done to the fish by the trebles and the long length of time it often took to unhook. The first thing I do now is swop the trebles for inline singles. Unhooking is normally done in a jiffy and rarely damage done to the fish so my enjoyment level of the sessions has gone up significantly.

I have no preference but your preference sounds good and logical and will do it

 

[Goatfish]

I have no preference but your preference sounds good and logical and will do it

Definitely worth trying I would say

 

[Kevin3110]

Daytime estuary Kevin. Either tide coming in right to left or the opposite…..

Don’t want try teaching you how to suck eggs but my preferred method during the day would be to get the rod tip up high, slow retrieve with plenty of taps on the rod. Gets the lure walking for a longer time over a small area with a slower retrieve.

 

[Goatfish]

Don’t want try teaching you how to suck eggs but my preferred method during the day would be to get the rod tip up high, slow retrieve with plenty of taps on the rod. Gets the lure walking for a longer time over a small area with a slower retrieve.

All advice welcomed mate, thanks. I will definitely have that in my head next time…….seems a long way off at the moment!

 

[stan m]

I reckon you are all talking boulders. I can`t wait for Minstrelblue to spot this and give you proper information and advice

 

[crablante]

I reckon you are all talking boulders. I can`t wait for Minstrelblue to spot this and give you proper information and advice

@Minstrelblue

 

[Wolf]

Lazy lures do some good lures.

 

[stan m]

I rarely fish lures unless for bonito or freshwater, salmon etc (or did, legs to fecked` these days) Anyway, long, long time ago down Mull of Galloway direction I was bait fishing for thornback when I noticed a much older guy, probably 80 then, regularily pull out decent bass over a few days. One it turned out was 11lb. Anyway spoke to him eventually and he showed me his method. Obviously would not work on rocky bottom. He had a simple 4inch silver toby, nothing fancy just a tried and tested toby. He had various gulleys and areas where rock and sandy bits met around 30-40 yds out, from memory would be around 12ft of water. He cast the toby onto the sand and let it settle. Once settled he gave an occasional slight twitch, I imagine this disturbed the sand. Then after about 4-5 minutes he gave a sharp tug and started to wind in sink and draw, wham, time and again a bass hit. Turns out he had been a commercial rod and line fisherman and used simlar methods on his boat. He reckoned the occasional twitches sent up clouds of sand which attracted fish and then the sudden jerk and sink and draw convinced them it was some fish, hiding in the sand now trying to escape. This would be probably 1990`s but I have little doubt the method would still work just fine.

 

[Dutchman]

I have never had a bass off the surface.

So will be buying a couple of the cheaper ones this year.

 

[Minstrelblue]

I wish I could advise you but with having made 435,678,987 casts on shallow or surface lures I've not managed to catch anything resembling a measurable European bass..I'll get my coat

 

[Kine262]

I wish I could advise you but with having made 435,678,987 casts on shallow or surface lures I've not managed to catch anything resembling a measurable European bass..I'll get my coat

435,678,987 casts??? C'mon now, be honest!!!





It was much more than that!

 

[Goatfish]

I have never had a bass off the surface.

So will be buying a couple of the cheaper ones this year.

Do it Dutch….its absolutely awesome when a Bass comes from beneath and clears the surface with the lure in its mouth!

 

[crablante]

I wish I could advise you but with having made 435,678,987 casts on shallow or surface lures I've not managed to catch anything resembling a measurable European bass..I'll get my coat

It's OK - I was just stirring the pot

 

[crablante]

I rarely fish lures unless for bonito or freshwater, salmon etc (or did, legs to fecked` these days) Anyway, long, long time ago down Mull of Galloway direction I was bait fishing for thornback when I noticed a much older guy, probably 80 then, regularily pull out decent bass over a few days. One it turned out was 11lb. Anyway spoke to him eventually and he showed me his method. Obviously would not work on rocky bottom. He had a simple 4inch silver toby, nothing fancy just a tried and tested toby. He had various gulleys and areas where rock and sandy bits met around 30-40 yds out, from memory would be around 12ft of water. He cast the toby onto the sand and let it settle. Once settled he gave an occasional slight twitch, I imagine this disturbed the sand. Then after about 4-5 minutes he gave a sharp tug and started to wind in sink and draw, wham, time and again a bass hit. Turns out he had been a commercial rod and line fisherman and used simlar methods on his boat. He reckoned the occasional twitches sent up clouds of sand which attracted fish and then the sudden jerk and sink and draw convinced them it was some fish, hiding in the sand now trying to escape. This would be probably 1990`s but I have little doubt the method would still work just fine.

Fascinating! So much knowledge and experience out there, knowing how a fish behaves helps a lot.

It reminds me of a spot my dad and I would fish with 2 hook flappers. We were interested in getting seabream but we'd also get wrasse. One time the sea was so calm...decided to spearfish while my dad fished. Got to see the fish, how they behaved and where they were. Turns out wrasse were nearly always at the bottom, while seabream were 1-2m from the surface. We switched to using floats and it was seabream all day long

P.S. this may be common knowledge BUT we didn't know

 

[Dutchman]

I rarely fish lures unless for bonito or freshwater, salmon etc (or did, legs to fecked` these days) Anyway, long, long time ago down Mull of Galloway direction I was bait fishing for thornback when I noticed a much older guy, probably 80 then, regularily pull out decent bass over a few days. One it turned out was 11lb. Anyway spoke to him eventually and he showed me his method. Obviously would not work on rocky bottom. He had a simple 4inch silver toby, nothing fancy just a tried and tested toby. He had various gulleys and areas where rock and sandy bits met around 30-40 yds out, from memory would be around 12ft of water. He cast the toby onto the sand and let it settle. Once settled he gave an occasional slight twitch, I imagine this disturbed the sand. Then after about 4-5 minutes he gave a sharp tug and started to wind in sink and draw, wham, time and again a bass hit. Turns out he had been a commercial rod and line fisherman and used simlar methods on his boat. He reckoned the occasional twitches sent up clouds of sand which attracted fish and then the sudden jerk and sink and draw convinced them it was some fish, hiding in the sand now trying to escape. This would be probably 1990`s but I have little doubt the method would still work just fine.

I do similar to that at one location when using redgill cast as far as possible and let the weight drop to sand then reel in and can feel when it drops down into the deeper channel.