Pulley beads or large swivel

[Mr Fish]

I’ve not found I miss too many bites on a pulley and must admit I use them a lot just because they’re quick and easy to make.
They’re certainly a godsend in rough ground, which is quite a bit of my fishing.
I’ve have missed some, it’s true but whether that was the fault of the pulley or simply a missed bite, I couldn’t say.

To answer the question, the various pulley beads look fine but I stick with swivels and normal beads simply because I don’t like buying multiple expensive gadgets for rigs.
Whereas with swivels and a lead/bait clip I can make up a pulley quickly with just the bits in my box.
Agreed they can then kink a bit so it’s important to keep an eye on the condition of the rig body, but it should be good practice to check your rigs regularly for wear anyway.

 

[Kine262]

The fish should hook itself well before then ?? the lead should only break free once you strike with the rod, same as any other rig.
By lifting the lead above the fish it gives the benefit that it's lifted clear of weed covered rocks at the edge & also lets you hold a fish in shallow water, waiting for a wave to help beach it, without falling to the bottom where it might snag

I'm not saying there isn't a place for a pulley rig, especially on rough ground, but I see people using them everywhere, without actually knowing why. As for the fish hooking themselves, my comment was set the hook, as in to make sure it was securely hooked, which might not always happen if you are using a big bait.

 

[Angrybear]

I'm not saying there isn't a place for a pulley rig, especially on rough ground, but I see people using them everywhere, without actually knowing why. As for the fish hooking themselves, my comment was set the hook, as in to make sure it was securely hooked, which might not always happen if you are using a big bait.

Well now you do know why I use them most of the time, especially at Chesil, for the reasons I put earlier, a lot longer than the version I would be using on the Bristol Channel, on the BC maybe 80cm hook to lead, at Chesil 2m - 2.4m hook to lead, so it fishes like a flowing trace, but makes beaching a fish so much easier because the lead isn't dragging around.
As for setting the hook, if the fish has broken out the lead, I would suggest that has almost certainly taken enough force to set the hook, if not the strike definitely will.

 

[Mr Fish]

I'm not saying there isn't a place for a pulley rig, especially on rough ground, but I see people using them everywhere, without actually knowing why. As for the fish hooking themselves, my comment was set the hook, as in to make sure it was securely hooked, which might not always happen if you are using a big bait.

I use them mainly because they’re so simple to tie and use minimal basic components (in my case!)
It’s laziness as much as anything

 

[Kine262]

Well now you do know why I use them most of the time, especially at Chesil, for the reasons I put earlier, a lot longer than the version I would be using on the Bristol Channel, on the BC maybe 80cm hook to lead, at Chesil 2m - 2.4m hook to lead, so it fishes like a flowing trace, but makes beaching a fish so much easier because the lead isn't dragging around.
As for setting the hook, if the fish has broken out the lead, I would suggest that has almost certainly taken enough force to set the hook, if not the strike definitely will.

I didn't mean that I didn't know, I meant that that I had seen people using them that didn't know why they were using them. I have used pulley rigs when conditions dictated it, but all I meant with my initial post was that some people use them for every situation, thinking that they will catch them more fish, hence the over-rated comment.

In regard to your last comment about setting the hook, that's what I said all along, you are contradicting yourself, as in your earlier post you said that the lead should only break free when you strike!

 

[crablante]

Like with anything - you have to understand the consequences (of your rig choice).

 

[Shirleycodlin]

Best place for a pulley rig ?

In the bin

 

[crablante]

Best place for a pulley rig ?

In the bin

Having read through some historical threads (here) I've noticed some (not naming anyone) dislike the pulley rig so much

 

[Shirleycodlin]

Hi everyone would like to now what you guys use on your pulley rigs myself I've been using a heavy breaking strain swivel on 100lb rig body to be safe but have been getting a kink in the rigbody where it sits on the swivel

If I'm forced to use a pulley rig as a last resort over snaggy ground, I'll use a large swivel if, and only if, the cast is a very gentle lob.
If any form of power casting is involved, I use the breakaway proper pulley link.
I don't add any beads as they are just something else to snag.

The only addition is a bit of neoprene tube as a sliding stopper.
It turns the rig into a fixed rig for far better hook up ratios but allows the lead to rise under the pressure of a hooked fish.

 

[Mr Fish]

If I'm forced to use a pulley rig as a last resort over snaggy ground, I'll use a large swivel if, and only if, the cast is a very gentle lob.
If any form of power casting is involved, I use the breakaway proper pulley link.
I don't add any beads as they are just something else to snag.

The only addition is a bit of neoprene tube as a sliding stopper.
It turns the rig into a fixed rig for far better hook up ratios but allows the lead to rise under the pressure of a hooked fish.

Nah, now you’re just being a tackle tart!