Spools different?

[jambop]

Hi I have a Okuma Epix ER 60 spinning reel that I am going to use next year as I work myself back into fishing . Anyway the reel is quite good condition and it did come with two spools. Now both these spools hold the same amount of line but they are quite different one has a flat brass plate at the front and is a fair bit heavier then the other which has a sort of thick rounded off aluminium lip. They both look very different but naturally the section of the spool where the line is wound on is the same dimension and they both take line the same as each other. Is there a reason for this? Do the spools have a slightly different function? I have clearly used both of the spools as I just removed the old line to clean the salt off them prior to reloading with new line. Anybody have a clue why the spools are so different for the same reel?

 

[hullcitytilidie]

I'm just having a guess without seeing photos buddy but suggest that one is for mono and one for braid? The mono one would be deeper inside than the braid which is shallower and would explain the slight difference in weight?

Although you say both take the same length in line, braid is much thinner than mono so you would get the same length on a shallower spool?

I note that in an advert for a spare spool on eBay, he describes it as a spare GRAPHITE spool so possibly the other is aluminium further explaining a weight difference?

 

[Kine262]

One is a 'match spool' meant to take lighter line and is made of graphite to make the reel lighter and easier to hold for longer. The other is a spool for heavier line for spinning. Don't put braid onto the graphite spool as it will distort the shape eventually.

 

[jambop]

No both spools are aluminium as far as I can see bit both have a different design the spool on the right is 30g heavier than the other and where the shaft goes inside the spool is slightly higher on the one one the left to make up for the difference in height both spools were supplied in the box with the reel when I bought it . The reel must be nearly 15 years old now and I have just noticed that my enquiring mind wonders why they are different.

 

[Tournamag]

Often with reels that have a spare spool esp in the cheaper range the spare will be plastic/graphite and primary spool will be alloy type!
Either are ok with braid! just makes more sense to use the one that is shallow'ist.
But just make sure they are the same fit! so when on reel does Bailarm rotor line up with top and bottom of spool or can end up with line stuffed up front or back of spool if wrong(Sometimes you can shim them up as had to do with Shimano with Baitrunner years as later ones sat differently to previous years model)

Easiest is put some pictures up so can see.

 

[Tournamag]

Do they both fit on ok? if do one on right sits lower with skirt but check depth to locating lug as some it's further up inside so spool will rub on rotor.
But they look from different types ones rear drag and other baitrunner type. Similar capacities roughly!

 

[Dutchman]

I am not sure but is the one on the left side better for spinning as the edge on the inside is more bevelled.
And for lighter line as not so deep.
Sure i have seen something like that description before.

 

[Dutchman]

I am sure i have a couple of reels that have spools that look exactly like the two above, not got them at home they are in box at caravan so can not see description.

 

[hullcitytilidie]

I am not sure but is the one on the left side better for spinning as the edge or the inside is more bevelled.
And for lighter line as not so deep.
Sure i have seen something like that description before.

Tourney is right those spools are from completely different types of reel. Only the correct one should be used in my opinion.

 

[jambop]

Do they both fit on ok? if do one on right sits lower with skirt but check depth to locating lug as some it's further up inside so spool will rub on rotor.
But they look from different types ones rear drag and other baitrunner type. Similar capacities roughly!

The capacities are exactly the same and the spools fit perfectly. The ratios for both spools are the same and I have had them both filled with line which was perfectly level on the spools. The longer of the two spools has the locating hole slightly higher inside the spool than the other, this is why when it is mounted it is at exactly the same position with respect to the baling arm. It is very strange you can easily feel the difference in weight of one to the other.
One other thing which you may be able to see from my photos is the spool with the brass top is quite a bit larger in diameter than the aluminium one which is very odd because the diameter of the drum looks to be the same. Edit I have just measured the tops and the and there is 5mm difference so they cannot both hold the same amount of line as the drum diameter is the same as is the distance between the top and bottom of the drum the aluminium one must hold considerably less line when full.




edit
OK so I have now measured the difference in the length of the distance between the bottom of the spigot that the bottom of the spool matches the difference in height in other words the spool on the left sits slightly higher when fitted to the reel body. I think what we are seeing here is that the spools in fact have greatly different capacities although the spool marking say different. The was an inexpensive reel I think I paid about £35 back in 2006 it just shows that you get what you pay for although the reel has a nice smooth action. I will see how I get on I may upgrade, although I have reeled in some very nice seatrout and bass with it back home.

 

[hullcitytilidie]

Looking at your last two photos of the reel with each spool on - I note that the rear of both spools come to a similar position at rest?
How then can you possibly get correct full line lay on both spools when one spool is clearly 1/4" longer than the other as shown in the first photo?

 

[Tournamag]

They don't look like line up the same at the top parallel to roller?
Probably find middle of spool is different between them i notice there shaped differently also but just use what works best?
Spares and spools for Okuma is best described as F'in Dire! many of the reels are quite ok though ive a Salt Trio Rex one Brilliant reel
Pete on here had the Carp version which everyone used it got hammered 8 n baits/Feathering you name it then got given to the Kids fishing charity and was still like new.
Unlike the Daiwa and Penn that went Pop!

 

[Kine262]

Just had a look at your pictures Jambop. The spools are both for that reel. One is a two tone anodised but it has been ported (drilled) to reduce the weight and the other is a anodised spare. Both are aluminium. The spare spool was supplied unported just to save money. It has a slightly longer skirt to the spool but the two spools sit at different heights on the spindle so that the bail arm doesn't miss the spool.

The porting is what causes the weight difference.

 

[jambop]

Looking at your last two photos of the reel with each spool on - I note that the rear of both spools come to a similar position at rest?
How then can you possibly get correct full line lay on both spools when one spool is clearly 1/4" longer than the other as shown in the first photo?

I could take another photo but it would be difficult to see. How it does it is the spigot the winding spindle fits into on one of the spools is just a few mm longer than on the other and it exactly corresponds to the height difference between the two... weird I know but I have measured them and it all adds up And the difference in weight is as far as I can see down to one of the spools being machined out much deeper inside the drum than the other and the fact that they added a lovely shiny brass top made the spool about 30g heavier . It is quite a nice reel though has eight bearings and runs very smoothly.

 

[hullcitytilidie]

That explains it perfect buddy, I just couldn't figure it out! I was fkn dreaming about it last night! how it could possibly work without one spool being further back onto the spindle!?