SeasWest fishing rigs.

[kevothefish]

Would have helped with the ones I bought from a local tackle shop had the knots tied properly. You only had to glance at the rig and the traces were falling out!

Lots of them are machine tied in C-H-I-N-A now, the koike ones are particularly shitty and need tightening up before any use.

 

[Trampster]

Lots of them are machine tied in C-H-I-N-A now, the koike ones are particularly shitty and need tightening up before any use.

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The Cod Feathers I bought were from WSB Tackle (wholesalers) via a local Tackle shop. Says a lot about the quality when the tackle shop guy tells you to check the knots before using them!
WSB are based in Redruth, Cornwall. As you say probably all made cheap as chips in China, and I guess all of WSB's own brand Rods & Reels too. I couldn''t see any recognised brands amongst the Reels apart from Lineaffe, and they're not up to much anyway!

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[Tatunka joe]

All my tackles wsb

 

[tdxs133pm]

All my tackles wsb

Yeah,right.

 

[blakdog is back]

I've used WSB's daylights for years and never once had an issue. I actually stock some WSB stuff and it is a long way removed from some of the worst I've seen ... their rods are cheap but then they are meant to be ... they don't claim to rival Zziplex and if you are selective some of their sea rods are very capable for what you pay for them and great as starter or occasional use gear. I have one of their 6-8 oz beach casters for fishing the rough around our rock breakwaters here ... it was £22 trade and quite frankly I couldn't have built one myself that cheap. I got it purely so my expensive gear didn't get smashed to pieces and this thing has done itself proud and caught me loads of fish.

People moan like hell but I'm not sure what they expect ... they need to think how much they get paid an hour and how long it takes to make the thing they are buying ... its no good being tight if you want quality stuff.

I speak from experience when I say that if you stick cheap Chinese and expensive UK handmade rigs side by side 99.9 percent of people will buy the cheap ones ... its the same with reels. There is a lot of hypocrisy with UK consumers quite frankly.

 

[blakdog is back]

Says a lot about the quality when the tackle shop guy tells you to check the knots before using them!

Not really ..... you should check every knot on your gear that you haven't tied yourself quite frankly and thats irrespective of how much the gear cost and who tied the knot.

 

[Trampster]

Not really ..... you should check every knot on your gear that you haven't tied yourself quite frankly and thats irrespective of how much the gear cost and who tied the knot.

These were really bad Russ. As I said, they fell apart as I took them out of the packet.
Quite happy to pay for quality - I've bought 2 batches of excellent rigs from Kev at Seaswest. Good gear, fair prices, and per rig, probably cheaper than I was charged for the WSB ones.

 

[Beach]

I tend to use BZS (Newhaven, Sussex) dayglo feathers and lead weights including break away. Never had a problem.
They are on the usual online etc - fleabay & amazonion, also have their own website for those interested.

 

[blakdog is back]

These were really bad Russ. As I said, they fell apart as I took them out of the packet.
Quite happy to pay for quality - I've bought 2 batches of excellent rigs from Kev at Seaswest. Good gear, fair prices, and per rig, probably cheaper than I was charged for the WSB ones.

I've never had anything that bad from them personally .... you'd have to question why the shop was selling those at all and hadn't thrown them back.

We have a few good rig suppliers locally and they all seem to do fairly good stuff but the one that pays tax is about 3 times the price of the others.

The best rigs I ever saw were from Ian Houlton (Moonfleet Rigs) but his were expensive (by comparison to others) and I don't think he could really make it pay even then.

 

[wingnut55]

Seaswest rigs are superb, i have purchased loads from Kev, and none have ever let me down. Will be getting some more soon..

Ian.

 

[kevothefish]

I've never had anything that bad from them personally .... you'd have to question why the shop was selling those at all and hadn't thrown them back.

We have a few good rig suppliers locally and they all seem to do fairly good stuff but the one that pays tax is about 3 times the price of the others.

The best rigs I ever saw were from Ian Houlton (Moonfleet Rigs) but his were expensive (by comparison to others) and I don't think he could really make it pay even then.

yes - Ian was using multiple silicon stops instead of crimps and the time spent making against the price he could charge was unrealistic. I do sell a few rigs using the breakaway adjustable crimps but the price is significantly more than a crimped rig as you are looking like 8p a crimp...

https://www.breakaway-tackle.co.uk/adjustable-crimps?search=crimp

Breakaway Crimp Tool kit

The best tool on the market for crimps!

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[kevothefish]

Seaswest rigs are superb, i have purchased loads from Kev, and none have ever let me down. Will be getting some more soon..

Ian.

Thanks Ian - use code SEA09 when you do - it's a 15% discount code for all forum members here.

 

[wingnut55]

Thanks Ian - use code SEA09 when you do - it's a 15% discount code for all forum members here.

Your welcome Kev. Will be ordering soon mate.

Ian.

 

[Leepip]

Bought loads on eBay over the years Seawest Rigs never let me Down well tied Kev

 

[Fishlife]

WSB Hooks are terrible
Absolute dog shit
And many more expletives I could write.

 

[kevothefish]

WSB Hooks are terrible
Absolute dog shit
And many more expletives I could write.

I used the wsb uptide hooks for a while but some packs would be spot whilst others would be almost rubber hooks where they must have got the tempering wrong. I still have some packs of their galvanised crab hooks which are very strong and I have had double figure congers out on the 2/0's - they do need to be individually checked and some points touched up.

 

[wingnut55]

It's the old adage, buy cheap buy twice, you get what you pay for..

Ian.

 

[Beach]

I use mustad hooks and found them good quality imo.

 

[kevothefish]

I use mustad hooks and found them good quality imo.

hard to get a trade account with them.

 

[squidword]

I had a go at making rigs for a while, mainly for the club I was in at the time. I used the sliding silicone stops for adjustment due to lost hook links. Made sets of feathers on 80lb mono, couldn't make any of it pay. Hats off to Kev, I certainly couldn't do it, between sore hands and the thought of tieing rigs for myself to use started to stop my enjoyment of fishing. Much respect to those that do it for a living.