Quiver tip "weight" testing

[Casker]

I can't pin down the manufacturer spec's for my oldish 13' Daiwa Vertice freshwater ledger-type rod with fixed quiver tip ont' web. (Mentioned elsewhere; it's an un-used older fresh-water rod that I bought cheap with light saltwater bait-casting in mind given it's s/steel guides etc.)

So I've started testing and I'm a bit thrown by my quiver-tip test: even a 6oz weight has not "pulled" the Q-tip down to a 90 degree angle !
I haven't yet tried beyond 6oz because it just doesn't seem likely (from what I've read) that a f/water ledger rod's quiver tip will go beyond a 6oz test !

I've double-measured the weights used for the test: I've tested allowing for the full length of the fixed quiver tip section (2'5") and then with the quiver-tip fixed/pivoted at just 12" from the end-guide: a 6oz weight doesn't do it (90 degree tip angle) in either of those circumstances!
It just doesn't accord with any of my expectations - any thoughts please ?

[Edit: doesn't matter what use I might want to put it to - I'm just head-scratching at my tip-weight test result.]

 

[Trampster]

Freshwater rod ?? Sorry Casker, not a scooby doo about such beasties!

 

[Valleyboy]

I'm saying bugger all.......else

 

[Kine262]

I can't pin down the manufacturer spec's for my oldish 13' Daiwa Vertice freshwater ledger-type rod with fixed quiver tip ont' web. (Mentioned elsewhere; it's an un-used older fresh-water rod that I bought cheap with light saltwater bait-casting in mind given it's s/steel guides etc.)

So I've started testing and I'm a bit thrown by my quiver-tip test: even a 6oz weight has not "pulled" the Q-tip down to a 90 degree angle !
I haven't yet tried beyond 6oz because it just doesn't seem likely (from what I've read) that a f/water ledger rod's quiver tip will go beyond a 6oz test !

I've double-measured the weights used for the test: I've tested allowing for the full length of the fixed quiver tip section (2'5") and then with the quiver-tip fixed/pivoted at just 12" from the end-guide: a 6oz weight doesn't do it (90 degree tip angle) in either of those circumstances!
It just doesn't accord with any of my expectations - any thoughts please ?

I thought we’d done this once but he goes anyway.
The rod you have is a 3lb test curve carp rod. It wasn’t made with a quiver tip, fixed or swappable, but was customised by the original owner. He may have done that with an old glass tip section or he could have used an old carbon tip section from another rod. It’s unlikely he just used an old quiver tip, as a 3lb carp rod would have too big an internal diameter to hold a quiver tip from another quiver rod. If he has used a top section of a carbon or glass fibre rod then it’s unlikely that you have a long enough length fixed into your carp rod for it to be able to bend 90 degrees. If it could then it would be a bit too weak, or should I say the carp rod would be too strong for the tip.

It sounds like the 3lb rod has been paired with a suitable tip to give better bite detection than it would normally have (or need as a carp rod) but it’s not what could be called a quiver tip rod.

 

[Casker]

I thought we’d done this once but he goes anyway.
The rod you have is a 3lb test curve carp rod. It wasn’t made with a quiver tip, fixed or swappable, but was customised by the original owner. He may have done that with an old glass tip section or he could have used an old carbon tip section from another rod. It’s unlikely he just used an old quiver tip, as a 3lb carp rod would have too big an internal diameter to hold a quiver tip from another quiver rod. If he has used a top section of a carbon or glass fibre rod then it’s unlikely that you have a long enough length fixed into your carp rod for it to be able to bend 90 degrees. If it could then it would be a bit too weak, or should I say the carp rod would be too strong for the tip.

It sounds like the 3lb rod has been paired with a suitable tip to give better bite detection than it would normally have (or need as a carp rod) but it’s not what could be called a quiver tip rod.

@Kine262. My forum name is Casker not "he" !!! Why you can't address me directly with your comments is beyond me. And this is a new rod which has not been bastardised (blank says "Sec: 3+1QT") so your dismissive comments are way off and of no help what so ever. Catch up mister!

 

[JLD]

I think that's just a mistyped here.

 

[wingnut55]

I think @Kine262 meant to say "here goes anyway".

Ian.

 

[Casker]

I think @Kine262 meant to say "here goes anyway".

Ian.

I'll await his correction !

 

[Valleyboy]

Take a pic. Let us see where this push in quiver tip joins the the rod. The rod as you describe just doesn't exist come on show us six inch worth

 

[Ollieollie]

I think @Kine262 meant to say "here goes anyway".

Ian.

Them/they

 

[Casker]

No, @Valleyboy, as a matter of principle, I'm not gonna take a pic - the rod I describe does exist and I'm telling you it is pristine-new (plastic wrapper was still around the cork) and the quiver tip is absolutely original (fixed joint at 2'5" as previously mentioned). I don't need to prove myself to the forum with a pic.
Forget I started this thread cos, so far, it seems no one has any useful thoughts on why my own quiver-tip weight tests seem to be suggesting (rightly or wrongly) an unusually "heavy" tip "weight" on an original 13' Daiwa ledger-type rod. I'm sorry to have mentioned !

 

[Topwater]

Ha ha what a nonsense

 

[Casker]

Ha ha what a nonsense

 

[flappy]

Ha ha what a nonsense

Blokes an arrogant bell end.

 

[Casker]

Blokes an arrogant bell end.

Talk of arrogant bell ends @flappy !!

(But, never mind - may I help you with your hyphenation anyway - your "Blokes" should be written as "Bloke's" ! No thanks necessary - lol)

 

[Mr Fish]

ummm, personally I’d have a wank, then go fishing

 

[Casker]

So does anyone have any useful ideas (ref my starter post) or will this thread just end up as a wank-fest (given some wanker responses so far) ?

 

[Kine262]

@Kine262. My forum name is Casker not "he" !!! Why you can't address me directly with your comments is beyond me. And this is a new rod which has not been bastardised (blank says "Sec: 3+1QT") so your dismissive comments are way off and of no help what so ever. Catch up mister!

As a couple of people on here have already very helpfully pointed out for me, I just omitted the 're' off the he due to typing too fast, or possibly because my phone corrected with predictive text.

So, whilst we are at it and you seem so keen to correct poor grammar, perhaps I should point out that the mistake you highlighted in Flappy's post was nothing to do with hyphenation, but was actually a missing apostrophe, a possessive one at that!

 

[Casker]

So, whilst we are at it and you seem so keen to correct poor grammar, perhaps I should point out that the mistake you highlighted in Flappy's post was nothing to do with hyphenation, but was actually a missing apostrophe, a possessive one at that!

Correction fully acknowledged - my bad.

 

[Trampster]

The bottom line is, this is Talk SEA Fishing, and whilst some on here do participate in freshwater fishing, @Casker would be better asking his question on a more appropiate forum.