Advice Dongle

[nearly70ty]

Hi gents seen a few short Utube films on the dongle rig, there seems to be quite a few different one's some what I thought was exsesively complex. What I would really like to know is how you make yours rigs up, and whats the castability of the rig which is far from stream line.

 

[goose]

You can make a dongle rig as streamlined as you wish as you decide on the hook size,length of dongle and size of bait. I've used them on a three foot pulley with a 3/0 hook and two inch dongle and crab for hounds or three inch dongle with sandeel or anchovy which can be very streamlined.

 

[chesilpete]

I just see them as a pennel rig with the bottom hook missing....

 

[welshtroutfisher]

When I make a dongle rig I make the dongles first- 80mm long with a 20mm loop tied in the end, overhand knot on other end pulled tight and blob tag with lighter, so 100mm in total.

Normally use a 5ft pulley rig, so tie a bulk of the bodies leaving the snoods and hooks off.

Attach said dongle to hook (normally a circle hook) before the knot end and tie snood line, clip down the loop on dongle to imp clip to measure snood length needed and tie onto rig body swivel.

I may not of described it as simple as it sounds in my head, but basically I attach the dongle and then use the loop end as I would the hook to measure how long I need the snood to be if that makes sense

I bait onto the dongle, and use elastic to keep it on, and clip it down onto an imp, don't find it any different to a pennel in terms of castability and try and keep my baits the same either way.

 

[Cwab]

as only fish for cod/codling and was never anything I even considered till it became a “fashionable” thing up here for whatever reason so eventually had to give them a go not to be left out.
Only perceivable advantage for me is I think get snagged less in kelp and heavy ground due to one circle hook as opposed to pennel with circle still been top hook but probably negligible in reality.
Only casting short in rough ground with large baits and makes no difference to my type of fishing, easy to make as only real difference been using loop to attache circle hook ( more movement of hook apparently for hook up), with braid (dongle) attached and loop or rotten bottom clip to clip down for casting.
Length of braid dongle made to suit users baits, no doubt other variations out there.
Edit, worth considering dongle strength as this is taking stress of the cast.

 

[RemoteWanderer]

In my mind, dongle rigs would result in less hook ups than a pennel with a top circle. Have never tried side by side, but certainly have their place if chasing after fish that pick up a bait and run with catch and release in mind,

 

[solehunter]

Hi gents seen a few short Utube films on the dongle rig, there seems to be quite a few different one's some what I thought was exsesively complex. What I would really like to know is how you make yours rigs up, and whats the castability of the rig which is far from stream line.

This is the original dingle dangle rig, very simple, this is what I use.

 

[nearly70ty]

Many thanks for all your inputs, I'm going to give the doggle rig a go , are they suitable for bass I'm thinking of using one with a large Razor would it be a disadvantage for a fish that often hits bait hard and fast.

 

[Cwab]

Many thanks for all your inputs, I'm going to give the doggle rig a go , are they suitable for bass I'm thinking of using one with a large Razor would it be a disadvantage for a fish that often hits bait hard and fast.

Can only try and see what you think?

 

[RemoteWanderer]

Many thanks for all your inputs, I'm going to give the doggle rig a go , are they suitable for bass I'm thinking of using one with a large Razor would it be a disadvantage for a fish that often hits bait hard and fast.

I think it would work well for bass, just wait for the rod to hoop over as they take off with bait then winding in as opposed to striking. Tbh though, vast vast majority of my bass fishing is within 25yds, more within 15yds so I just nick the top of the bait with a circle and lob it out, similar to boat fishing no elastic etc. and no difference in success whatsoever than when using bait elastic, but i guess in theory same principle as dongle, with just single circle at top of bait no pennel.

 

[nearly70ty]

I think it would work well for bass, just wait for the rod to hoop over as they take off with bait then winding in as opposed to striking. Tbh though, vast vast majority of my bass fishing is within 25yds, more within 15yds so I just nick the top of the bait with a circle and lob it out, similar to boat fishing no elastic etc. and no difference in success whatsoever than when using bait elastic, but i guess in theory same principle as dongle, with just single circle at top of bait no pennel.

Most of my bassing is on surf beaches cast of 40 to 50 yards, aiming for between the second and third breakesrs, as you say no need for big casts. I've missed some really strong allmost savage hits and don't know why, so I'm looking for an alternative to standard one up one down sort of rig.

 

[Live in hope]

Use dongles a lot for my hound and ray fishing adjusting the single length accordingly for bait used eg 6cm for crab baits 10-12cm for squid and fish baits. On the reefs I find it prevents getting caught on the snags. One thing to remember is if you get a screamer don’t strike just point towards the fish and lift into it setting the hook. Bass have a big ol mouth so possibly use a bigger hook or if your after right lumps would be more confident with a pennel. That said had smaller ones to 7 on a dongle.

 

[Shirleycodlin]

I just see them as a pennel rig with the bottom hook missing....

I use them a lot, but with the bottom hook still attached

 

[Live in hope]

I use them a lot, but with the bottom hook still attached

Snap but like everything they have their uses especially where I fish and to be fair not seen a drop off in numbers lost if anything I’ve landed a better percentage negating the risk of catching into the reef and no deep hooked fish. But if it’s for silver carp sorry bass shove a pennel on someone will want one for tea.

 

[Angrybear]

I cannot see the point in a bait that a fish can pick-up without getting a hook in it's mouth ?
so I bind the bait to the hook, not to a bit of cord below it.

 

[nearly70ty]

I cannot see the point in a bait that a fish can pick-up without getting a hook in it's mouth ?
so I bind the bait to the hook, not to a bit of cord below it.

The main advantage is fish are lightly hooked in the corner of the mouth, I put a lot of my bass back so it's a big advantage for me if the hook ups are as described
I also surmise that the fish doesn't feel the hook in the the bait because it isn't, untill its to late, but we'll have to ask a fish to find that one out

 

[nearly70ty]

Another quicky, question wise that is, Will using semi circular instead of full circle hook make any difference, I'm tight and don't want to buy hooks unless i need to

 

[flappy]

Another quicky, question wise that is, Will using semi circular instead of full circle hook make any difference, I'm tight and don't want to buy hooks unless i need to

We didn’t used to use semi or circle hooks when using a carp hair rig.. so why now.?

 

[nearly70ty]

We didn’t used to use semi or circle hooks when using a carp hair rig.. so why now.?

Did the carp you you caught get hooked in the corner of their mouths.

 

[flappy]

Did the carp you you caught get hooked in the corner of their mouths.

Usually yes..