Baiting up worms for long distance fishing...

[RemoteWanderer]

Rethinking tactics and methods for the upcoming season and hope to get out from March onwards with plaice as the main target in mind. Was just wondering how others bait up their delicate worm baits for withstanding the longer distances which are often needed to find the plaice, whilst maintaining good presentation and movement.

I usually just thread a worm up the hook until it reaches my silicone stop knot but find sometimes it slides down and bunches on the bottom, or parts of the worm blowup on the cast even after dipping in water beforehand. Have seen some using bait elastic gently on a baiting needle before sliding the worm up the hook, and others tipping the bottom half of the hook with a different bait to prevent bunching of the worm on the shank.

Will be using rag and lug, but have a good supply of maddies that I can dig locally and was thinking that this should be a good bait if I can get these delicate worms out at distance in one piece. Any advice is much appreciated, tight lines all,

 

[Beach]

Have you tried bait holder hooks? works ok for me.

 

[groundswell]

Have you tried bait holder hooks? works ok for me.

please tell me they don't exist anymore

 

[Angrybear]

I leave a 3-4mm tag end from the knot, which seems to hold the bait.
honestly I expect the smell of the bait to matter more than the look,

 

[glandyman]

Rethinking tactics and methods for the upcoming season and hope to get out from March onwards with plaice as the main target in mind. Was just wondering how others bait up their delicate worm baits for withstanding the longer distances which are often needed to find the plaice, whilst maintaining good presentation and movement.

I usually just thread a worm up the hook until it reaches my silicone stop knot but find sometimes it slides down and bunches on the bottom, or parts of the worm blowup on the cast even after dipping in water beforehand. Have seen some using bait elastic gently on a baiting needle before sliding the worm up the hook, and others tipping the bottom half of the hook with a different bait to prevent bunching of the worm on the shank.

Will be using rag and lug, but have a good supply of maddies that I can dig locally and was thinking that this should be a good bait if I can get these delicate worms out at distance in one piece. Any advice is much appreciated, tight lines all,

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[Beach]

please tell me they don't exist anymore

Yes they still make them and they work.

 

[chesilpete]

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They def do work.

 

[groundswell]

Yes they still make them and they work.

The only thing I can guarantee is they make the hook weaker

 

[flappy]

I just wrap maddies up in elastic.

 

[Dutchman]

I just cast and hope for the best

 

[Angrybear]

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I forgot about them, I've got an old one from Dvice tackle co ltd,
20 odd years old but never actually cast it

 

[goose]

PVA tape works just as well for sea fishing as it does for carp angling.

 

[concrete]

Doesn’t matter if your worms slump around the bend of the hook, it means they’re at the pointy end which is where you want them. Worms are soft and when a fish takes the point will go through the worm and into the fish.

Fish baits are a different matter, especially squid for some reason. I always make sure my hook points are exposed. I either use circles and casting capsules, or a sensible amount of fine elastic.

 

[Cwab]

Could stick to using black lug or good yellow tails go rock hard on hook/line unlike blow lug though for some harder to get and more costly.

 

[Angrybear]

PVA tape works just as well for sea fishing as it does for carp angling.

Now that's something I've never bothered trying, although I will double or treble up worm tails & whip them on with bait elastic.

 

[J Richards]

I’m sure pva will not dissolve in salt water….

 

[goose]

I’m sure pva will not dissolve in salt water….

Don't completely cover the bait in it just spiral wrap like elastic so the bait can break down releasing scent . Crabs and small nuisance fish will tear it apart but any residue left when reeled in is easier to remove than bait elastic.

 

[J Richards]

Don't completely cover the bait in it just spiral wrap like elastic so the bait can break down releasing scent . Crabs and small nuisance fish will tear it apart but any residue left when reeled in is easier to remove than bait elastic.

True… but will a gooey mess. Also if its raining and have wet hands it’ll be a bitch lol. I find the “fine” elastic comes of ok. The “medium” is a pain and “large” is just a .

 

[goose]

I've started keeping a small bucket of water and towel with me and wash and dry my hands after baiting up. Used to just use a towel for years but got fed up with always having a stinking towel when I got home .

 

[crablante]

I've started keeping a small bucket of water and towel with me and wash and dry my hands after baiting up. Used to just use a towel for years but got fed up with always having a stinking towel when I got home .

My mate brings a bar of soap