Super Glue

[nearly70ty]

Hi gents and ladies,
I'm fed up with strugling to thread crimps on the main line of traces , my eyes aren't the best these days. I remember that there was a time when people were super glueing beads as a way of holding the swivel for snoods in place. Have you tried this and how did you get on with it.

 

[welshtroutfisher]

Never tried super glue, used to use crimps but now I tie a stop knot with some 18lb mono. Not sure the name of the knot but im sure someone more knowledgeable can help out.

I would be afraid of the glue reacting with the rig body and possibly compromising the strength of it

 

[Goatfish]

Hi gents and ladies,
I'm fed up with strugling to thread crimps on the main line of traces , my eyes aren't the best these days. I remember that there was a time when people were super glueing beads as a way of holding the swivel for snoods in place. Have you tried this and how did you get on with it.

I wear glasses 3.00 but still struggle to thread hooks and crimps etc onto rigs. Mrs Goatfish bought me a magnifying glass on a stand which makes things dead easy. It’s one with a built in light.

 

[Valleyboy]

I tried years ago and it was messy and tricky to do compared to crimps or phone wire

 

[Valleyboy]

I wear glasses 3.00 but still struggle to thread hooks and crimps etc onto rigs. Mrs Goatfish bought me a magnifying glass on a stand which makes things dead easy. It’s one with a built in light.

That's the way to go

 

[goose]

Hi gents and ladies,
I'm fed up with strugling to thread crimps on the main line of traces , my eyes aren't the best these days. I remember that there was a time when people were super glueing beads as a way of holding the swivel for snoods in place. Have you tried this and how did you get on with it.

Cheaper than chips.

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[nearly70ty]

Cheers Gents, I'll try some new glasse's I've needed them since covids, time to do something about it lol

 

[Thrasher]

Cheers Gents, I'll try some new glasse's I've needed them since covids, time to do something about it lol

I have a set of clip on magnifiers for my glasses when tying flies. The same would do for rigs.

 

[Angrybear]

I've got a desk lamp with iirc a 5x magnifier, cost £20 ish from Argos, but doesn't come with a bulb so buy one to fit at the same time.
With crimps it helps to cut the line at an angle, & buy a pair of cheap glasses to keep in the tackle box.

 

[Mike]

Been using glue rigs for well over a decade, and I prefer them to crimps. However, it is a faff if you’re not set up for it, I must admit.

Really, a rig jig is a must. There are loads of pre-built ones out there now, but I made my own with some spare curtain track I had and three Tronixpro Rig Jigs. The rig jigs were attached to the track so they could move. You can rapidly build three rigs at a time. I’ve expanded it since with an additional two tracks. So I can make 9 rigs at a time. Although I’m probably going to invest in a dedicated jig at some point.

If you use two-way beads and are scratch fishing, flounder, doggies, etc., I glue two-way beads onto the rig body directly. I use the beads horizontally so they act as a bit of a boom. Snood-wise, 25 / 30lb fluorocarbon, pass it through the bead, and then throw in a few overhand knots to stop the line passing straight out of the two-way bead. Some anglers like to put an additional bead at the back of the snood as a belt and braces approach; I’ve never needed to. I’ve had near-specimen wrasse on that setup in boat comps without any issue.

Alternatively, glue tube is great if you want a more traditional “crimp” setup. Just set up the tubes as you would a crimp; the main components go between the jig, a dab of glue either side of the components, and then slide the tube over the glue. The glue shoots up the tube, and it sets solid.

Proper rig glue is best to use. The Italians make the best one; it’s a slightly different formula to standard super glue in that it has a little bit more elasticity in it. Also, don’t apply the glue directly from the bottle; use a metal needle or toothpick as it’s more precise. You also don’t need loads of glue for a strong bond either; if anything, if you use too much, it’s a worse connection.

The downside of them is you do need a few items to start without it getting frustrating. And by their nature, they’re very much fixed once built, so there is no adjustment going to happen other than lengthening to snoods.

They’re quite good fun to make with the right setup I’ve found.

 

[Shirleycodlin]

If you are struggling to see the holes in the crimp, don't you struggle to see the holes in the bead?

Anyway, an alternative is neoprene tubing.
Pass through the tube, back through the same way, and pull tight.

 

[Trampster]

I haven't used Superglue for rigs or beads. Not keen on Crimps but do use the Breakaway adjustable ones, or as Shirley said, Neoprene tube.
I have taken a hint from some of the Youtube guys and sometimes use a drop of Superglue for making sure the tag end of a knot isn't going to work free, with no adverse effects.

 

[nearly70ty]

I much appreciate all the imput some great info, I 'll give it a go thanks again

 

[RemoteWanderer]

If you are struggling to see the holes in the crimp, don't you struggle to see the holes in the bead?

Anyway, an alternative is neoprene tubing.
Pass through the tube, back through the same way, and pull tight.

Do the same as this, find it can slide down with pressure of a fish so use multiple. Great for clipped down rigs where changing snood length doesn't affect reusability as can just slide the tubing up or down to suit the slightly different length snood

 

[Wolf]

I use the helping hands that Goose mentioned,I use crimps I find glue too messy.I end up with more glue on me than anywhere else.

 

[flappy]

Used to make helicopter rigs for carp fishing back in the day.. using super glue.. worked well and lasted years.

 

[Angrybear]

Anyway, an alternative is neoprene tubing.
Pass through the tube, back through the same way, and pull tight.

Yep I use the tube sliding stops but there are times/rigs where it needs a crimp.
I used to really like the Cox & Rawle self grip stops for rig building, no idea if it's still made I've got enough to go on with

 

[nearly70ty]

Cox & Rawle self grip stops

Any pictures of these please, I can't find them.