Shimano TLD20A.

[goose]

Anyone know if it's possible to mag brake these ?

 

[Beach]

Anyone know if it's possible to mag brake these ?

Have a chat with Blackdog, he is the expert on reels etc etc.

 

[wingnut55]

Why would you want to mag a boat reel ?

Ian.

 

[Topwater]

If you could get it to spin freely enough for long casting, given the weight of the loaded spool it would have to be some magnet to break that inertia! Maybe a fixed magnets and/or a variable? What's your intended use? (Obviously casting but what for and where, why etc)

 

[Beach]

Why would you want to mag a boat reel ?

Ian.

Just because I reckon

 

[goose]

Thinking big skate switching to the low gear for winching in deep water may make things easier on my old back. Looking now the TLD20A is bigger than I thought so may try and find a two speed in a smaller size . Used to have an Abu 9000cl which was a fantastic reel but don't think they make it anymore.

 

[Topwater]

I'd ask Blakdog Russ for his advice as he's seen the workings of more reels than anyone else. Not wanting to teach you how to suck eggs but once you factor in using long rods for casting distance, all that available drag combined with the leverage begins to work against you, that's why stand up rods are shorter than standard boat rods

 

[goose]

I'd ask Blakdog Russ for his advice as he's seen the workings of more reels than anyone else. Not wanting to teach you how to suck eggs but once you factor in using long rods for casting distance, all that available drag combined with the leverage begins to work against you, that's why stand up rods are shorter than standard boat rods

Agree hence a lower gear would help recover line with a big fish.

 

[Topwater]

Agree hence a lower gear would help recover line with a big fish.

It will but it won't counteract the leverage of a stiff long rod when using high drag settings. If anything it can add to the pain as you keep winding on the pressure! Its about effective pressure on the fish not the angler. Geometry and physics. Its different again when playing hard running fish that also have stamina. All the skate and big stingray I've caught have been dogged, slugging heavy weights rather than seriously explosive fighters that don't know when to give up ; big flat sharks that can hold bottom and angle againt current really well but not insanely powerful or fast. Out of interest, how big have you had them Goose? Do you know what sort of drag settings you've used?

 

[blakdog is back]

Only do it if you want to ruin a good reel. The other point to make is lever drags are not really god for winching unless you are winching in way below their weight class .... to do that you generally have to wind the drag up and that kills the bearings. I know people will say they use them for that but I get the end results on my bench and it breaks them!

Once you start magging the larger reels it can become a bit counter productive as with the big heavy spools you tend to need such a strong field to hold the initial surge of the reel that the mags smother the reel for the rest of the cast and it feels like the lead is dragging your granny behind it. I know the yanks, Aussies and South Africans mag some big old reels but I think many of them use it as a sort of background braking to help the thumb cope .... and I take some of the casting distances claimed (with large shark bait attached) with a pinch of salt.

There isn't much room in the left side of most Lever Drags (TLDs included) for a multi magnet setup and a monomag won't be much good without a bigger magnet (again space is an issue) so if you are set on it I would try a static setup .... that can be as basic as glueing a few magnets inside the left side plate .... add a number of small magnets and find what works best by trial and error.

 

[goose]

Only do it if you want to ruin a good reel. The other point to make is lever drags are not really god for winching unless you are winching in way below their weight class .... to do that you generally have to wind the drag up and that kills the bearings. I know people will say they use them for that but I get the end results on my bench and it breaks them!

Once you start magging the larger reels it can become a bit counter productive as with the big heavy spools you tend to need such a strong field to hold the initial surge of the reel that the mags smother the reel for the rest of the cast and it feels like the lead is dragging your granny behind it. I know the yanks, Aussies and South Africans mag some big old reels but I think many of them use it as a sort of background braking to help the thumb cope .... and I take some of the casting distances claimed (with large shark bait attached) with a pinch of salt.

There isn't much room in the left side of most Lever Drags (TLDs included) for a multi magnet setup and a monomag won't be much good without a bigger magnet (again space is an issue) so if you are set on it I would try a static setup .... that can be as basic as glueing a few magnets inside the left side plate .... add a number of small magnets and find what works best by trial and error.

Think I'll forget TLD and try and find a pair of Abu 9000cl's in very good condition. I've never caught skate from the beach before which is why I want to go to Scotland to try for one.

 

[blakdog is back]

Think I'll forget TLD and try and find a pair of Abu 9000cl's in very good condition. I've never caught skate from the beach before which is why I want to go to Scotland to try for one.

I have regular customers that use TRQs, Saltists, Saltigas and the larger Fathoms ... not sure I would use a 9000 to be honest as I have never 100% trusted those cages.

 

[goose]

I have regular customers that use TRQs, Saltists, Saltigas and the larger Fathoms ... not sure I would use a 9000 to be honest as I have never 100% trusted those cages.

Used one for years when I had a boat and caught alsoghts on including large gonga.

 

[blakdog is back]

Used one for years when I had a boat and caught alsoghts on including large gonga.

I hear lots of happy ever after stories about them .... but I see the not so happy endings on my bench. The internal side plates are an archilles heel which have been the downfall of many a 9000.