Advice New zziplex rod spigots

[Tomthewelshie]

Hi all,

Just wondering how similar the zziplex spigots are to the century ones? Do they suffer the same pain in the arse with swelling etc


Thanks

 

[Fishlife]

spent a little time cleaning spiggots on my new profie blank and its fine.
as has all my centurys and older zzippys since having to walk 5 miles with my old hst stuck together years back.

Been documented for enough years to know to do that now
And guess what.. No more problems.

 

[Tomthewelshie]

spent a little time cleaning spiggots on my new profie blank and its fine.
as has all my centurys and older zzippys since having to walk 5 miles with my old hst stuck together years back.

Been documented for enough years to know to do that now
And guess what.. No more problems.

I’ve had to do it multiple times on my super match graphex and it’s starting to piss me off no end. Everything fits perfectly at home, take it fishing a week later and I’m fighting it again. Infuriating

 

[Topwater]

I still say that rods should not leave the factory without being lapped in. It irks me. Come on Century/Zziplex - Chris K, are you reading??? - get this and resin over decals sortted ffs

 

[Tomthewelshie]

I still say that rods should not leave the factory without being lapped in. It irks me. Come on Century/Zziplex - Chris K, are you reading??? - get this and resin over decals sortted ffs

Yeah it’s seriously annoying especially for the money

 

[Fishlife]

Ok. Sorry was in a rush when i posted earlier.
So will add a bit more.
Rightly or wrongly I gently chamfer the bottom of the male spiggot.
This seems to stop the sharp edge causing carbon deposits within the female spiggot.
I also apply a very thin coat of clear nail varnish to the chamfered edge.
I believe this stops any moisture ingress into the bare carbon if that is such a thing.
Now none of the above may be right... but it seems to have solved the problem for me along with regular cleaning.
And yes I agree rods shouldnt be like that.

 

[mojocvh]

Ok. Sorry was in a rush when i posted earlier.
So will add a bit more.
Rightly or wrongly I gently chamfer the bottom of the male spiggot.
This seems to stop the sharp edge causing carbon deposits within the female spiggot.
I also apply a very thin coat of clear nail varnish to the chamfered edge.
I believe this stops any moisture ingress into the bare carbon if that is such a thing.
Now none of the above may be right... but it seems to have solved the problem for me along with regular cleaning.
And yes I agree rods shouldnt be like that.

Reducing the generation of carbon dust is a great first step! cnc manufacture or not.

I have had the butt cap remove the butt etched metal ring, that is equally annoying.
I talked to a rodmaker and his reply was along the lines of "they all [century] do that sir".

Not for that sort of money they shouldn't.

 

[Mike hemming]

I. Noticed that the new zziplex rods have less spigot showing than the older models, I have 2 20+ old t-zeros who have more spigot show than the new m4 gts , so i wounder are they going to last long with regular use , seems my old t-zeros are going to last longer useing them along side the m4gt , time will tell

 

[mojocvh]

I. Noticed that the new zziplex rods have less spigot showing than the older models, I have 2 20+ old t-zeros who have more spigot show than the new m4 gts , so i wounder are they going to last long with regular use , seems my old t-zeros are going to last longer useing them along side the m4gt , time will tell

Bit of a quandary, if there's too much sticking out do you "blend" it in slowly using vasaline to make a very effective cutting agent with the carbon dust or do you have a not fully seated joint when you are power casting?
What length of joint is exposed on these particular rods? 19-24mm?

 

[Mike hemming]

Bit of a quandary, if there's too much sticking out do you "blend" it in slowly using vasaline to make a very effective cutting agent with the carbon dust or do you have a not fully seated joint when you are power casting?
What length of joint is exposed on these particular rods? 19-24mm?

I’d say half an inch. On the new m4gt I have and I didn’t have to do any thing to them , yet my old t/zeros have a much longer spigot almost a good inch. and they’ve had 20 odd years of regular use and still a good tight fit but-the new m4gt is quite slack and tobe very honest I don’t personally think they will have much life in them compared to my old zero

 

[stan m]

I’d say half an inch. On the new m4gt I have and I didn’t have to do any thing to them , yet my old t/zeros have a much longer spigot almost a good inch. and they’ve had 20 odd years of regular use and still a good tight fit but-the new m4gt is quite slack and tobe very honest I don’t personally think they will have much life in them compared to my old zero

1/2 inch a bit small Mike. Normally I`d be happy with 15 -18mm showing

 

[Mike hemming]

1/2 inch a bit small Mike. Normally I`d be happy with 15 -18mm showing

I was thinking the same stan that’s how it came had it a few months now but used 4-5 times , to late to send it back I think , and iv not touched the spigot , I bet if i really tryed I bet I could but it right up to the joint

 

[stan m]

I was thinking the same stan that’s how it came had it a few months now but used 4-5 times , to late to send it back I think , and iv not touched the spigot , I bet if i really tryed I bet I could but it right up to the joint

Coat the male with bondaseal then a light rub down

 

[mojocvh]

Coat the male with bondaseal then a light rub down

Which is about the best advice you'll get.

With the etched butt ring I built up the male portion on the end of the butt with the ultra thin self adhesive tape [0.1mm] used to fix phone and pc boards until it was just so then used brute force and rotation to get it back on and stuck.

 

[mojocvh]

I was thinking the same stan that’s how it came had it a few months now but used 4-5 times , to late to send it back I think , and iv not touched the spigot , I bet if i really tryed I bet I could but it right up to the joint

That suks;

F'me we used to winge about Terry and Lees's neverendingum spigots and hand matching them with vaseline and carbon dust

 

[Mike hemming]

Coat the male with bondaseal then a light rub down

Has soon as I get a day off I’ll do that stan , that Harrison q3 you did for me the spigot is like new and it gets some serious work