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Agreed Dave. There is a lot to be said for good vitamin D levels though. Something I didn’t appreciate until I was diagnosed with a condition that relies on it to help my body absorb calcium, because it doesn’t do it very well on its own.

But despite taking the supplements in winter, and bloods showing my levels are high, I’ve found supplements are no substitute for sunlight generated vitamin D and I feel so much better in summer compared with winter.

Not necessarily mentally, though longer term it can have an effect, makes me irritable/a bit low, but more physically ie I get more symptoms from the condition, muscle pain, joint pain, various things.


All that said, I do agree with you that too many people do spend too long analysing and navel gazing these days, rather than as you say, just getting out and doing stuff.

That’s not to downplay genuine mental health issues, though I guess it’s all mental health to a degree, but I have noticed society generally doesn’t seem to have as much mental toughness these days, even just in the past 20-30 years, if that.


I hear and read so much ‘I can’t do this because’ or ‘I can’t go out because’ and people seem to give into it quite quickly.

Yes it’s a cliche to say ‘pull yourself together’ but equally that is the only thing that will help people move forward again.

I think there’s too much enabling now with all the ‘it’s okay to feel that way, no pressure’ approach to mental health, which is true in that it’s not their fault, but it also gives people the green light and endorsement to sit at home and not try, imo.

Which isn’t to say people should be thrust into situations that are deeply uncomfortable and stressful to them, but they should be encouraged to push their comfort zone (wherever that is for them) and achieve/do a bit more day by day, week by week.


I guess my meaning is I do think we coddle people too much now - as with many modern things, it’s gone from zero support to (imo) too much of the wrong support. One extreme to the other.


Just my late night ramblings on it. I do agree with much of Chris’s first post in that people should get out more and be less negative in their outlook. Taking vitamin D supplements certainly won’t hurt, though 10,000iu is a huge dose, but you will pee out what you don’t store and as an occasional dose I don’t think it’s an issue.


I also agree with you that ‘just do it’ is often the best remedy.

The amount of times I’ve dragged myself fishing, could barely be bothered to get out of a warm car the other end, but then an hour or two later stood on a dark beach looking at the stars, feel much more energised, refreshed and so glad I went.

Then there’s the odd session where I’m soaked to the skin, dragged in enough weed to feed a tribe of vegans and wished I’d stayed in bed (but we won’t mention those… 😒)


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